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  • DLT
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    #11
    Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut
    They still their watch the 12th Round of Cotto vs Mayweather...he was still able to bounce around like it was Round 1 What he does now he conserve his legs...why bounce around when you can stay in the pocket and still be slick and Slippery and even if you get trapped against the ropes you can still roll punches, what Mayweather use to do

    of course he is getting older and the legs are not what the use to be but to say they are gone is ****** if that was the case then you would see him struggle to make it to the Cards and Struggle to move around the ring and get out of trouble when he needs too...instead of him still bouncing around in the 12th like he was against Cotto...even B-Hop still have Legs and Phenomenal Stamina but he just use them wisely now
    trust me, I love seeing him in the pocket but there is still a difference. You can be in the pocket and still more alive on your toes, ala the Mosley fight. Since then its been looking more like an older man.

    Obviously he can still move but how much? What he's doing now is good enough to beat anyone from 147 on down easily but my point is about 154. I think he'll need to show a lil more agility if he fights there again

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    • KnockUTheFukOut
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      #12
      Originally posted by DLT
      trust me, I love seeing him in the pocket but there is still a difference. You can be in the pocket and still more alive on your toes, ala the Mosley fight. Since then its been looking more like an older man.

      Obviously he can still move but how much? What he's doing now is good enough to beat anyone from 147 on down easily but my point is about 154. I think he'll need to show a lil more agility if he fights there again
      UH...Why would you use your legs in the pocket...I think it is a serious confusion with fans when it comes to talking about "LEGS"....in boxing term when people talk about legs i am thinking Stamina and being able to go the distance without struggling to make it out of your stool in the later rounds...you seem to be talking more about Agility/Foot Speed and Quickness...if that is the case then yeah the agility is not as quick as it use to be

      but with Mayweather even with Slower Agility he will still be quicker then most at 147 and 154...like Hopkins...Mayweather is still smart enough to work around what now I guess people are trying to label his "WEAKNESS"

      Go to a Gym and spar and trying fighting inside "ON YOUR TOES" and see how easily you get pushed around, you should be more planted and flat footed inside for not only balance but to get off with more Power
      Last edited by KnockUTheFukOut; 03-30-2013, 12:48 AM.

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      • DLT
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        #13
        Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut
        UH...Why would you use your legs in the pocket...I think it is a serious confusion with fans when it comes to talking about "LEGS"....in boxing term when people talk about legs i am thinking Stamina and being able to go the distance without struggling to make it out of your stool in the later rounds...you seem to be talking more about Agility/Foot Speed and Quickness...if that is the case then yeah the agility is not as quick as it use to be

        but with Mayweather even with Slower Agility he will still be quicker then most at 147 and 154...like Hopkins...Mayweather is still smart enough to work around what now I guess people are trying to label his "WEAKNESS"

        Go to a Gym and spar and trying fighting inside "ON YOUR TOES" and see how easily you get pushed around, you should be more planted and flat footed inside for not only balance but to get off with more Power
        I know about fighting flat footed in the pocket. My point us that he also use to fight aggresively in an offensive posturing while standing right in front of u in his toes. He hasn't done that the last 2 fights. It's not all about inside and offensive either. I'd like to see him be able to move more for defense too.

        Again I know all about him being wiser now and doing other things but u are also underestimating what is going to work at 154 against some of the elite there. He will have to be more agile. I'm never worried about his stamina.

        A lot of this is the same for broner. His style is fine now but when he fights the best at higher weights he is going to have to be on his toes more, move more, and show more agility. That's my point

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        • ShoulderRoll
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          #14
          I think Floyd could still move around and box and win fights that way but he's making an effort to stay in place more in order to give the fans more excitement.

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          • 4Corners
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            #15
            I really don't think Floyd's overall speed, agility, and overall ability is that different from 2009-2010, at least giving how he fought Cotto for parts of that fight. The difference was Cotto was big and could muscle Floyd to the ropes and keep him there.

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            • Jim Tom
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              #16
              Originally posted by DLT
              Do you think he was brought back in to bring Jr's legs back? Even if he wasnt, do you think he can be the one to bring his legs back?

              It will be hard to tell in this fight anyways because the game plan will probably be to walk the Ghost down. If they did elect to use his legs more in this fight it could actually backfire but it would be cool for future fights.

              As a Floyd fan, it would be dope if he entered the ring at 154 pounds or so and still showed the ability to move well with his legs. Atleast on par with the Mosley fight. If he did that then I could see him being more willing to dual with the Jr. MW's. Most likely though he's 150 & flat footed
              Floyd Sr is a perfectionist who favours pure boxing the way Mayweather fought in the Marquez fight.With Guererro's aggression he will probably get the Gatti treatment. If you mean legs as in movement then it's possible. Mayweather can move around beating Guererro to frustrate him.After the 4th round Guererro would become a punchbag and possibly getting stopped around the 7th to save him from damage and further embarassment.

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              • boliodogs
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                #17
                If Floyd's legs are shot I don't know what Senior can do to improve his legs that any other trainer or Floyd Jr. himself could not do. He could do roadwork, spar, shadow box, jump rope, do sprints and lift weights with his legs or ride a stationary bike but he probably does these things already. Does Senior have a secret for improving legs?

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                • pitbull puppy
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                  #18
                  bring his legs back???what?

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                  • LaceSensor
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                    #19
                    Straight right hand, duck to Ghosts left, rinse, repeat enroute to a UD or 2nd half fight stoppage on Ghosts eyes. Thats how I see it.
                    Ghost isnt technical enough to brawl Money inside, and you can bet your ass the referee in Vegas wont allow the same tactics as the Berto fight.

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #20
                      Realistically speaking, he doesn't need his legs here as much. He moved against Marquez because Juan is able to counter regardless of which angle you force him into, which is why he is arguably one the best counter punchers in the game. Guerrero is incapable of that and isn't the puncher that Mosley, Ortiz and Cotto were. Floyd's performance in this bout would shine more if he allowed Guerrero to try and smother him, Floyd could also get him out that way. If there is any fighter where he doesn't need to move much...it's this one.

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