Taylor-Hopkins 1 and 2. Who did y'all have winning?

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  • #1Assassin
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    #11
    i had hopkins winning both. dawson and roy clearly beat him and if wright got the decision over BHop i wouldnt complain. but there is no doubt he beat taylor, calzaghe too.

    ineffective aggression and missing punches dont score points. clean punches landed, defense and ring generalship does.

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    • Biolink
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      #12
      I'll have to rewatch them. At the times these fights came on, I hated Hopkins with a seething passion.

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      • Big_L
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        #13
        taylor won both. hopkins ended the first fight so strongly but he did next to nothing the first 8 rounds. second fight was like the first, minus the strong rally. the second one was one of the worst fights i've ever seen.

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        • RVABoxer
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          #14
          I remember i felt Hopkins won the first. I felt Hopkins maybe one the second but I wasn't really surprised at the decision it could have gone either way to me

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #15
            I thought Hopkins clearly won the first fight. Surprised at the amount of people who thought Taylor won. I can't see how Taylor won the first fight.

            I scored the second fight for Taylor.

            These fights were clear signs that Hopkins, although still a top fighter at the age of 40, wasn't the fighter he once was.

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            • -DSG-
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              #16
              Good stuff i need to watch both again.

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              • MrClutch85
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                #17
                I scored the 2 fight 115-113 for Hopkins I scored the first fight 114-114 Draw
                Last edited by MrClutch85; 03-25-2013, 12:51 PM.

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                  #18
                  First fight for Hopkins despite a very slow start.

                  Second fight don't remember but wasn't disgusted with the decision by any means.

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                  • -Kev-
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                    #19
                    Taylor won both.

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                      #20
                      I think at best a case can be made that Taylor deserved a draw in one or both fights but they were close enough that no one can convincingly argue that Taylor won either fight.

                      The first fight I thought Hopkins definitely deserved the nod. Here are some scores:

                      Jerry Magee, San Diego Union-Tribune: 114-114 Draw
                      Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-114 Draw
                      TheSweetScience.com: 117-111
                      Taylor
                      Harold Lederman, HBO: 115-113
                      Taylor
                      Kevin Iole, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 115-113 Hopkins
                      Max Kellerman, HBO: 115-113
                      Hopkins
                      Michael Katz, Reuters: 115-113
                      Hopkins
                      Paul Upham, SecondsOut.com: 115-113 Hopkins
                      Associated Press: 114-113 Hopkins
                      Ramiro Gonzalez, La Opinion: 116-112 Hopkins
                      Doug Fischer, MaxBoxing.com: 116-112 Hopkins
                      David Mayo, Grand Rapids Press:
                      116-112 Hopkins
                      Keith Idec, New Jersey Herald-News: 116-112 Hopkins
                      David Avila, Riverside Press
                      Enterprise: 116-112 Hopkins
                      Tim Smith, New York Daily News:
                      116-112 Hopkins
                      Ron Borges,Boston Globe: 116-112
                      Hopkins
                      Joe Santoloquito, The Ring
                      Magazine: 116-113 Hopkins
                      Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily
                      News: 117-111 Hopkins
                      Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 117-111 Hopkins
                      Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Hopkins
                      Ivan Goldman, The Ring Magazine:
                      117-111 Hopkins

                      The second fight wasn't a whole lot different although Hopkins started earlier. Taylor threw more punches in both fights but Hopkins landed more in both.

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