Taylor-Hopkins 1 and 2. Who did y'all have winning?

[gauze]

only reason to watch the 2nd fight is to see hopkins smack jay nady in the balls

[IronDanHamza]

I think at best a case can be made that Taylor deserved a draw in one or both fights but they were close enough that no one can convincingly argue that Taylor won either fight.

The first fight I thought Hopkins definitely deserved the nod. Here are some scores:

Jerry Magee, San Diego Union-Tribune: 114-114 Draw
Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-114 Draw
TheSweetScience.com: 117-111
Taylor
Harold Lederman, HBO: 115-113
Taylor
Kevin Iole, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 115-113 Hopkins
Max Kellerman, HBO: 115-113
Hopkins
Michael Katz, Reuters: 115-113
Hopkins
Paul Upham, SecondsOut.com: 115-113 Hopkins
Associated Press: 114-113 Hopkins
Ramiro Gonzalez, La Opinion: 116-112 Hopkins
Doug Fischer, MaxBoxing.com: 116-112 Hopkins
David Mayo, Grand Rapids Press:
116-112 Hopkins
Keith Idec, New Jersey Herald-News: 116-112 Hopkins
David Avila, Riverside Press
Enterprise: 116-112 Hopkins
Tim Smith, New York Daily News:
116-112 Hopkins
Ron Borges,Boston Globe: 116-112
Hopkins
Joe Santoloquito, The Ring
Magazine: 116-113 Hopkins
Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily
News: 117-111 Hopkins
Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 117-111 Hopkins
Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Hopkins
Ivan Goldman, The Ring Magazine:
117-111 Hopkins

The second fight wasn't a whole lot different although Hopkins started earlier. Taylor threw more punches in both fights but Hopkins landed more in both.

Hopkins very unlucky to not get that decision.

I had it like 8-4 for Hopkins.

7-5 at worst.

[UTEP]

I had B-hop winning the 1st fight and Taylor winning the 2nd, it wasn't as clear as the Calzaghe thrashing but the right man definitely won.

[daggum]

taylor-hopkins was the original hopkins-calzaghe except hopkins-calzaghe is so much more fun because of all the slapping.

[revs1227]

i had b hop wining first and taylor 2nd

[warp1432]

Taylor won the first because Hopkins got started too late...

I don't understand this notion that Taylor did better in the rematch or was somehow more active than Hopkins in the first six rounds. Hopkins clearly won the second IMO.

[badnewsbrown]

I watched them again last week and had both fights a draw...

[RL_GMA]

BHop - Fight 1
Draw - Fight 2

[ßringer]

Taylor won the first because Hopkins got started too late...

I don't understand this notion that Taylor did better in the rematch or was somehow more active than Hopkins in the first six rounds. Hopkins clearly won the second IMO.

This.

A lot of people (for the sake of brevity, let's call them 'tards) think Hopkins won the first bout despite doing **** all until the 8th round. Rounds 8-12 were clearly his, but he still deserved to lose a 7-5 decision for having done absolutely nothing up until the final third of the fight.

How impressive he was in closing against Taylor the first time is irrelevant because, from a purely mathematical standpoint, he gave away too many rounds to be considered the victor.

As for the second bout, I thought that was the much clearer of the two Taylor fights. Hopkins did everything he did to Taylor in the first fight here, but he was also much more active early, and he used his jab to much greater effect.

I don't see how anybody scores that fight for Taylor.

[IronDanHamza]

This.

A lot of people (for the sake of brevity, let's call them 'tards) think Hopkins won the first bout despite doing **** all until the 8th round. Rounds 8-12 were clearly his, but he still deserved to lose a 7-5 decision for having done absolutely nothing up until the final third of the fight.

How impressive he was in closing against Taylor the first time is irrelevant because, from a purely mathematical standpoint, he gave away too many rounds to be considered the victor.

As for the second bout, I thought that was the much clearer of the two Taylor fights. Hopkins did everything he did to Taylor in the first fight here, but he was also much more active early, and he used his jab to much greater effect.

I don't see how anybody scores that fight for Taylor.

I may be getting the first fight mixed up with the second.