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Lol at the Mathysse hype, lets rewind back to 2010 shall we......

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  • #81
    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
    Still counting imaginary wins are you??Khan has beat the best fighters out of everyone still fighting at 140lb..like it or not...Matt's lost to Judah and Alexander..Khan is a unified Champion at 140lb bro..End of story..
    Nope just counting robberies

    Khan is not a unified champ at 140

    Garcia isnt the lineal champ either

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
      Both won 3/4 of the rounds but in a 12 rounder
      in our opinion. there are some rounds open to interpretation there, though, as i noted in my RBR.

      generally speaking, i think Kotelink won his rounds with more clarity than Lucas (excepting the KD round for Lucas and a couple of later ones he won)


      Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
      OK for 8.75 rounds
      not even that.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin View Post
        Nope just counting robberies

        Khan is not a unified champ at 140

        Garcia isnt the lineal champ either
        Khan beat Kottelnik and Judah and earned the right to be called a unified Champ,as did Garcia..It's cornball fuucks like ya self who(most likely never fought in their lives)need to stop following the sport or at least learn to respect it..

        Oh and I don't believe Matt's was ever robbed..Against Devon he may have not gotten a favorable decision..But robbed he was not..Lara was robbed,and the only fighter I truly feel was robbed for sometime now...I've seen some bad decisions..But that's not the same as a robbery...

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        • #84
          look, Lucas got a raw deal X2. he should have won both the fights he was judged to have lost.

          but they weren't scandals. and Lucas is far from the monster guys here are making him out to be, guys who feel the need to exaggerate his every achievement and every injustice against him beyond proportion.

          he's just another solid guy. there is no standout fighter at 140 since Bradley left.

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          • #85
            Mane, Ya'll need to relax about this Matthysse - Alexander fight.

            I thought Matthysse won it clearly but fairly close.

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            • #86
              Outside of Mayweather-Castillo, I've never seen more people cling to fights that happened years ago in a while. I guess guys aren't allowed to show great improvements over time but will forever be held to questionable decision losses .

              I remember Ward was dropped against Kenny Kost in his 2nd fight. I believe he was dropped in the 2nd round or so and very vulnerable. I guess I should use that as reasoning as to why Ward can't beat {insert fighter}.

              Point is Mathysse lost questionable bouts years ago. That has nothing to do with why many people consider him the top JWW in the world, myself included.

              One of Mayweather's toughest fights were against Augustus. We're not even going to talk about who Pac was KO'd against before Marquez. Or who Wlad lost too, so on and so forth.

              Big deal, the judges thought Judah beat Mathysse years ago... That holds zero weight with what's going on today.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
                Outside of Mayweather-Castillo, I've never seen more people cling to fights that happened years ago in a while. I guess guys aren't allowed to show great improvements over time but will forever be held to questionable decision losses .

                I remember Ward was dropped against Kenny Kost in his 2nd fight. I believe he was dropped in the 2nd round or so and very vulnerable. I guess I should use that as reasoning as to why Ward can't beat {insert fighter}.

                Point is Mathysse lost questionable bouts years ago. That has nothing to do with why many people consider him the top JWW in the world, myself included.

                One of Mayweather's toughest fights were against Augustus. We're not even going to talk about who Pac was KO'd against before Marquez. Or who Wlad lost too, so on and so forth.

                Big deal, the judges thought Judah beat Mathysse years ago... That holds zero weight with what's going on today.
                Difference is Ward, Mayweather, Pac and Wlad went on to beat the best in their division.

                Matthysse has gone on to beat Soto, Olusegun and Dallas. Now forgive us but i don't think that warrants calling him the best at 140 just yet.

                No one is saying Matthysse isn't a very good fighter. All i'm saying is based on his career so far, he has done nowhere near enough to warrant the crazy amount of hype he gets on this forum.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
                  6 clear rounds according to you and he is still only up by a point. i dont remember which rounds i gave to matthysse but i scored the fight for judah by a point. so obviously some of those "clear" matthysse rounds werent all that clear.

                  its not just me either, most ppl thought matthysse won but thats a given since he was the aggressor and the aggressor always gets the mainstream fans vote. among ppl who know how to score its more or less split down the middle [/B[B]]yet some keep pretending it was a clear win for matthysse, thats not the case

                  zab didnt win clearly either but it could have went either way, being so close to zabs homwetown its common sense he would get the nod in such a scenario. but you should never let a fight get that close anywhere, matthysse didnt get robbed he simply didnt do enough.
                  6 clear rounds according to reality. the 7 rounds judah won were..........no one ever can answer and if they try they get quickly destroyed with videos and analysis of how matthysse easily won that round. then the person starts making up his own rules on scoring and saying how judah made matthysse fight his fight even though matthysse outlanded him and yeah you can't win.

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                  • #89
                    I think Lucas has shown a lot of improvement since those fights and he has come on bit by bit, we just have to wait and see how he does against Pederson though before we start calling him another Maidana.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by retnuocllup View Post
                      matthysse lost his biggest fights... I think the trend will continue
                      Con got KOd in his.

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