Lol at the Mathysse hype, lets rewind back to 2010 shall we......

[Russian Crushin]

6 clear rounds according to you and he is still only up by a point. i dont remember which rounds i gave to matthysse but i scored the fight for judah by a point. so obviously some of those "clear" matthysse rounds werent all that clear.

They werent all that clear if you give judah rounds for running and jabbing into the air. If you score it based on clean punches landed, they're very clear

its not just me either, most ppl thought matthysse won but thats a given since he was the aggressor and the aggressor always gets the mainstream fans vote. among ppl who know how to score its more or less split down the middle yet some keep pretending it was a clear win for matthysse, thats not the case.

If you're the aggressor and land the clean, better more effective punches, then yea you deserve to win. Anybody scoring that fight for judah scored it without considering the punches landed and only on hims being a "mover". It wasnt split down the middle either, ~70% thought lucas won

zab didnt win clearly either but it could have went either way, being so close to zabs homwetown its common sense he would get the nod in such a scenario. but you should never let a fight get that close anywhere, matthysse didnt get robbed he simply didnt do enough.

Of course he didnt clearly win, how can you win when you barely land punches, which for Zab were almost all weak jabs? Whats common sense, that the hometown fighter gets the win? I had no idea you get extra credit for fighting at home.

[Russian Crushin]

What is Lucas best win people? When the Peterson fight comes closer I'll be seeking out some bets.

As I said before with the way Lucas is rated on here I'd have expected him to have dealt with Zab easily and to have battered Devon around the ring. Neither one happened.

He's hugely overrated, live with it people.

He did batter Devon all over the ring, while he was fighting a negative spoiling, holding, and running fight

He beat Devon, who was ranked #3 after losing to Bradley. He also beat Judah, Soto and Ajose. He only basically has the best wins at 140. If only he had fought the great morales

[Roy Jones Jnr]

You werent around here before the Garcia fight were you

I was, and whilst Khan was the clear favorite no one was saying Khan was going to knock Garcia out.

Khan was supposed to easily win a decision against Garcia.

Matthysse supposedly will KTFO any living being on this earth if put in the ring with him.

Slight difference.

[PEBBLES!]

Round 1 10-9 Lucas (can see how it might be scored either way)
Round 2 10-9 Lucas (had Lucas doing the better quality work overall, but the round was somewhat open to interpretation - sidenote, the supposedly granite-chinned **** got stumbled near the end of the round, hahahaha)
Round 3 10-9 Alexander
Round 4 10-8 Lucas
Round 5 10-9 Alexander (can see how it might be scored either way)
Round 6 10-9 Lucas (Alexander fought back hard, could see how someone might score it for him)
Round 7 10-9 Lucas (very good round for LM)
Round 8 10-9 Lucas (very clear round)
Round 9 10-9 Alexander (very clear round)
Round 10 10-9 Lucas

97-92 Lucas

there were some rounds that were open to interpretation here, no matter what anyone says, and if i were generous to Devon in favouring his stuff (giving him rounds 1, 2 and 6), i'd have him a 95-94 winner. harsh on Lucas, who should have been awarded the fight imo, but not scandalous.

was Mythysse (< no typo) given a raw deal? i believe so, i have him winning rather widely. my point isn't so much whether or not he should have been awarded the decision, but rather that he wasn't as dominant as has been suggested. the knockdown he scored wasn't even a hurt type of knockdown.

i much preferred what Kotelnik did to Alexander.

[Rome-By-Ko]

He did batter Devon all over the ring, while he was fighting a negative spoiling, holding, and running fight

He beat Devon, who was ranked #3 after losing to Bradley. He also beat Judah, Soto and Ajose. He only basically has the best wins at 140. If only he had fought the great morales

Still counting imaginary wins are you??Khan has beat the best fighters out of everyone still fighting at 140lb..like it or not...Matt's lost to Judah and Alexander..Khan is a unified Champion at 140lb bro..End of story..

[PEBBLES!]

He did batter Devon all over the ring

not for 10 rounds, he didn't. let's not get hyperbolic.

and Morales is certainly great, even if there was limited kudos to be gained from a win over him at 140lb in 2011-12.

[John Barron]

Lets sign the contract!


Yes. I am not all that impress with Matthyse by the level of hype surrounding him. I never even watch the Devon or Zab fights against him until I had to judge them for myself. I guess I was too busy watching Garcia and Keith Thurman..

Anyway Zab clearly beat Lucas, even though he was such an idiot with his angles and defense getting caught by Lucas in the late stages of the fight. In my opinion Devon also beat him... both fights were not robberies instead Lucas didn't do enough. Lamont Peterson is going to take him out because of the PED scandal he went through and now he has to prove that he is actually legitimate. I say he wins because the PEDs he supposedly take wouldn't even have an effect on his performance against Amir Khan who was on his bicycle the whole fight.

please follow a different sport. track and field is that way >

[Money_May]

He did batter Devon all over the ring, while he was fighting a negative spoiling, holding, and running fight

He beat Devon, who was ranked #3 after losing to Bradley. He also beat Judah, Soto and Ajose. He only basically has the best wins at 140. If only he had fought the great morales

Come on bro, just last week when the convo was the 4 way tourney I said khan beat LP you stated he doesn't have the W over him (even though you scored it for khan) and I understand that. Same can be said for the Judah vs Lucas fight. Close fight Lucas didn't get the W.

He did however get truly robbed in the Devon fight. I had him winning that by 2/3 points if I recall correctly.

[Russian Crushin]

1: 10-9 Lucas (can see how it might be scored either way)
2: 10-9 Lucas (had Lucas doing the better quality work overall, but the round was somewhat open to interpretation - sidenote, the supposedly granite-chinned **** got stumbled near the end of the round, hahahaha)
3: 10-9 Alexander
4: 10-8 Lucas
5: 10-9 Alexander (can see how it might be scored either way)
6: 10-9 Lucas (Alexander fought back hard, could see how someone might score it for him)
7: 10-9 Lucas (very good round for LM)
8: 10-9 Lucas (very clear round)
9: 10-9 Alexander (very clear round)
10: 10-9 Lucas

97-92 Lucas

there were some rounds that were open to interpretation here, no matter what anyone says, and if i were generous to Devon in favouring his stuff (giving him rounds 1, 2 and 6), i'd have him a 95-94 winner. harsh on Lucas, who should have been awarded the fight imo, but not scandalous.

was Mythysse (< no typo) gypped? i believe so, i have him winning rather widely. my point isn't so much that he won still think he wasn't as dominant as has been suggested, though. the knockdown he scored wasn't even a hurt type of knockdown.

i much preferred what Kotelnik did to Alexander.

Thats because it was a 10 rounder instead of a 12 rounder like the kotelkin fight.

Both won 3/4 of the rounds but in a 12 rounder, one or even 2 swing rounds still produce a very clear winning. In a 10 rounder, you'll have to win at least 8 rounds clearly or else people won call it a "robbery". There's just no possible way to score it for devon without giving him lucas' rounds

[Russian Crushin]

not for 10 rounds, he didn't. let's not get hyperbolic.

and Morales is certainly great, even if there was limited kudos to be gained from a win over him at 140lb in 2011-12.

OK for 8.75 rounds