How can anyone say Boxing wouldnt be better off being run like the UFC?

[hhs661]

There would be no bloodsucking corrupt sanctioning bodies. There would be no greedy corrupt rivaling promoters preventing big fights from happening because they prefer to do in-house fights.

Even in the UFC you have big fights not happen. He'll, after Chuck Liddell lost that 500k bet Dana put down on him in Japan, he stopped letting his guys fight in other mma organizations such as PrideFC, Dream, Strikeforce etc etc. So Dana did have a role in huge fights happening.

There would be no ducking since Dana strips his fighters if they refuse to defend their titles against tough comp. It would be one big organization where everyone would have to face everyone until there's ONE champ per weight class.

So why haven't we seem Anderson Silva vs Machida, GSP or Jon Jones yet? Why does Cain Velasquez say he won't fight Cormier.. Big fights not happening are going on in the UFC as well

Now I see many boxing fans/MMA haters claim how this would not be good for boxing. Can someone explain how? Can anyone explain how having guys like Arum, Shaefer, and the ABC sanctioning bodies would be better for our sport than the way UFC is ran?

Because in boxing not all is ran by Top Rank or GBP. They may not work together but every so often we have a guy like Trout go across the border to win fights. Or a guy like Khan go up in the ranks in England then go across the pond to fight other guys in the GBP stable.

[Scarcaztic]

Yes, and if you fight really well in the main event you might make $50,000 whole dollars.Stop with the UFC ****. Let Lou D or Kathy Duva be co-comish and have them broker fights.It's the same problem with UFC,only worse. Let me know when prime Fedor fights Steroid Freak Lesnar or Silva fights St Perry.Better yet don't let me know...I don't care.

Flawed argument. The GSP/Silva fight is between guys in different weight classes, that have already dominated their weight classes.

I've yet to see a fighter dominate their weight division, without jumping around, and cherry picking.

The whole Fedor saga was ******ed. His management wanted to co-promote with the UFC. Not to mention, they wanted a piece of the UFC as well.

How many times does the UFC put the champ vs. the #1 guy? How many times has the UFC champ had to clean out a division? EVERY TIME.

Boxing's formula is ****.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Maybe TS picked the wrong company to use as an example. Maybe TS meant that boxing needs to be ran like the other pro sports (NBA, MLB, NFL, etc.) Where they only have 1 commission running the show and all the other stuff.


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[Deevel916]

Maybe TS picked the wrong company to use as an example. Maybe TS meant that boxing needs to be ran like the other pro sports (NBA, MLB, NFL, etc.) Where they only have 1 commission running the show and all the other stuff.


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Sheeit, if u wanna take it there, as much as I love boxing, I respect Tennis more. Its a one on one event where thru the process of elimination the best always faces the best at the end.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Originally Posted by 1PunchKOPOW!

Maybe TS picked the wrong company to use as an example. Maybe TS meant that boxing needs to be ran like the other pro sports (NBA, MLB, NFL, etc.) Where they only have 1 commission running the show and all the other stuff.


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Sheeit, if u wanna take it there, as much as I love boxing, I respect Tennis more. Its a one on one event where thru the process of elimination the best always faces the best at the end.

Lol I don't follow tennis but I wasn't talking about the way they match up. I was just talking about the whole commission thing.



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[croz]

Many boxing fans also fail to realize that many boxers fight for peanuts until they are on the big stage. Now while the superstars of boxing make WAY more than the superstars of UFC, the undercard fighters in both sports make very little money. After making million dollar paydays, a guy like Kelly Pavlik was offered just $50k for his comeback fight. I remember Zab Judah fighting for just $15k.

That's simply not true and I think you know that. You make money depending on what level you're on. Obviously if you're lower you get paid less, if you're higher you make more. Boxing is higher on every level. There are undercard fighters in boxing making more than some of the UFC's top draws. For example there were fighters on the undercard of Garcia vs Morales making 800k purses. And that's not even including sponsorship or those super secret bonuses promoters like to give out.

A fighter starting out in boxing will typically get 500-1000k depending on where they're located. A fighter starting out in MMA likely won't get paid for their first few fights.

Lower class boxing ****s the pay in the UFC. Outside the UFC and their 300 or so fighters there are no good pay days. Champions of other MMA orgs get paid the same wage as some boxers starting out for the first time.

[Dr Rumack]

That boxing needs a centralised, accountable governing body is a no-brainer. As long as its fragmented and controlled by all these mini chieftains like Arum, or Haymon, or Sulaiman, or Schaefer, you'll have all the same problems we have now.

The challenge lies in the fact that all the guys with the real power right now want to keep the system just the way it is. Why would they change a system that keeps them on top?

[Dr Rumack]

That's simply not true and I think you know that. You make money depending on what level you're on. Obviously if you're lower you get paid less, if you're higher you make more.

It is true. There are guys who are world class fighters in boxing, top 10 contenders, and they sc**** a living. If their career ended tomorrow they'd be broke.

[croz]

So why haven't we seem Anderson Silva vs Machida, GSP or Jon Jones yet? Why does Cain Velasquez say he won't fight Cormier.. Big fights not happening are going on in the UFC as well

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The only true superfight in the UFC was probably Penn vs GSP. All the others have fallen through. Jones vs Silva, Silva vs GSP, Fedor vs Brock, Fedor vs Randy. They also had the opportunity to match Silva vs Shogun, and Machida. Whenever the potential for superfights pops up Dana skips them. He doesn't want to risk losing a draw. Think about it, if GSP brings in 800k buys and Silva brings in 500k, if one of them loses then they likely lose all those PPV buys with it. The UFC is worse than boxing when it comes to hoarding superfights, because they have direct control to stop it from happening.

[Deevel916]

That's simply not true and I think you know that. You make money depending on what level you're on. Obviously if you're lower you get paid less, if you're higher you make more. Boxing is higher on every level. There are undercard fighters in boxing making more than some of the UFC's top draws. For example there were fighters on the undercard of Garcia vs Morales making 800k purses. And that's not even including sponsorship or those super secret bonuses promoters like to give out.

A fighter starting out in boxing will typically get 500-1000k depending on where they're located. A fighter starting out in MMA likely won't get paid for their first few fights.

Lower class boxing ****s the pay in the UFC. Outside the UFC and their 300 or so fighters there are no good pay days. Champions of other MMA orgs get paid the same wage as some boxers starting out for the first time.

This is false on so many levels. Its all about being a draw to the paying fans. Why is it that a guy like Ricardo Mayorga has headlined more ppv's than a guy like Winky Wright and has probably made more $ as well.

Andre Ward is a top 5pfp at the moment and cant sell therefore doesnt earn as much as he should given his level.