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  • mconstantine
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    #21
    Not sure people understand what constitutes good footwork. People associate a lot of movement with great footwork.

    Having good footwork simply means using your feet to do the following:

    - Maintaining Balance
    - Maintaining or gaining position to defend
    - Maintaining or gaining position to strike

    Having good footwork simply means being able to move and remain capable of doing the above 3 things. So let's assess Broner in these areas.

    Broner's footwork based on a wide stance DEFINITELY helps maintain balance. No question there.

    Broner doesn't rely on his feet to defend, rather his upper body. His footwork based on a wide stance enables his upper body to move so much without losing balance. So I'd say he's good here too.

    Broner's footwork based on a wide stance definitely allows him to always be in position to strike because his feet are always planted, ready to throw shots with maximum power. Broner also is very good at changing angles particularly on the inside. Look at how he side stepped DeMarco on the inside to create angles for his upper cuts. It's not the flashy type of footwork people think about when they think about footwork, but it's highly effective.

    If you look at the true purpose of using footwork, you'll see that Broner's footwork/legs work fine for his style at this point in his career. He may need to incorporate a more mobility in his footwork when he starts going against some heavy hitters in higher weight classes that can hurt him.

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      #22
      Originally posted by mconstantine
      Not sure people understand what constitutes good footwork. People associate a lot of movement with great footwork.

      Having good footwork simply means using your feet to do the following:

      - Maintaining Balance
      - Maintaining or gaining position to defend
      - Maintaining or gaining position to strike

      Having good footwork simply means being able to move and remain capable of doing the above 3 things. So let's assess Broner in these areas.

      Broner's footwork based on a wide stance DEFINITELY helps maintain balance. No question there.

      Broner doesn't rely on his feet to defend, rather his upper body. His footwork based on a wide stance enables his upper body to move so much without losing balance. So I'd say he's good here too.

      Broner's footwork based on a wide stance definitely allows him to always be in position to strike because his feet are always planted, ready to throw shots with maximum power. Broner also is very good at changing angles particularly on the inside. Look at how he side stepped DeMarco on the inside to create angles for his upper cuts. It's not the flashy type of footwork people think about when they think about footwork, but it's highly effective.

      If you look at the true purpose of using footwork, you'll see that Broner's footwork/legs work fine for his style at this point in his career. He may need to incorporate a more mobility in his footwork when he starts going against some heavy hitters in higher weight classes that can hurt him.
      Stop it. So far it has worked for him but if he was to fight someone like Vazquez or Gamboa who would hit him and move out/get out the way that wide stance would NOT help. The only time that stance would work is if he had them trapped or they chose to fight on the inside. Which of course they wouldn't.


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        #23
        not much from what we've seen and no lateral movements...just straight line forward-backward movements.

        and i think it's gonna be the same if he moves up. usually fighters show better movements at lower weights and begin to be a little stationary at higher weights. i doubt that it will be the opposite in the case of broner if he moves up.

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          #24
          Originally posted by mconstantine
          Not sure people understand what constitutes good footwork. People associate a lot of movement with great footwork.

          Having good footwork simply means using your feet to do the following:

          - Maintaining Balance
          - Maintaining or gaining position to defend
          - Maintaining or gaining position to strike

          Having good footwork simply means being able to move and remain capable of doing the above 3 things. So let's assess Broner in these areas.

          Broner's footwork based on a wide stance DEFINITELY helps maintain balance. No question there.

          Broner doesn't rely on his feet to defend, rather his upper body. His footwork based on a wide stance enables his upper body to move so much without losing balance. So I'd say he's good here too.

          Broner's footwork based on a wide stance definitely allows him to always be in position to strike because his feet are always planted, ready to throw shots with maximum power. Broner also is very good at changing angles particularly on the inside. Look at how he side stepped DeMarco on the inside to create angles for his upper cuts. It's not the flashy type of footwork people think about when they think about footwork, but it's highly effective.

          If you look at the true purpose of using footwork, you'll see that Broner's footwork/legs work fine for his style at this point in his career. He may need to incorporate a more mobility in his footwork when he starts going against some heavy hitters in higher weight classes that can hurt him.
          face palm yourself./

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            #25
            Broner is more stationary.... like James Toney more than Floyd

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              #26
              Originally posted by 1PunchKOPOW!
              Stop it. So far it has worked for him but if he was to fight someone like Vazquez or Gamboa who would hit him and move out/get out the way that wide stance would NOT help. The only time that stance would work is if he had them trapped or they chose to fight on the inside. Which of course they wouldn't.


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              Listen, it's not that easy. Especially against a counter puncher like Broner. Even Marquez utilizes a wide stance because it enables him to counter punch. You guys need to look at the big picture and what the purpose of footwork is based on the style of the fighter. One type of footwork doesn't work for all. It all boils down to if it allows the fighter to do the 3 things I said earlier. Period.

              When have you seen Broner out of balance? Never. Broner has knocked guys down after taking a half step back and countering with a straight right as well as a quick half step back and catching a guy coming in with a left hook. Do you know how great of footwork you have to have to pull off those kind of moves? Broner's footwork allows him to do all 3 of those things I mentioned before without losing hardly any energy. If it works, it's good footwork. Period.

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                #27
                Originally posted by mconstantine
                Listen, it's not that easy. Especially against a counter puncher like Broner. Even Marquez utilizes a wide stance because it enables him to counter punch. You guys need to look at the big picture and what the purpose of footwork is based on the style of the fighter. One type of footwork doesn't work for all. It all boils down to if it allows the fighter to do the 3 things I said earlier. Period.

                When have you seen Broner out of balance? Never. Broner has knocked guys down after taking a half step back and countering with a straight right as well as a quick half step back and catching a guy coming in with a left hook. Do you know how great of footwork you have to have to pull off those kind of moves? Broner's footwork allows him to do all 3 of those things I mentioned before without losing hardly any energy. If it works, it's good footwork. Period.
                if that's the case then every boxer's foot work is good, because whatever foot work they got, it's the right foot work for them because it's what works for them.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by mconstantine
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                  Originally Posted by 1PunchKOPOW!

                  Stop it. So far it has worked for him but if he was to fight someone like Vazquez or Gamboa who would hit him and move out/get out the way that wide stance would NOT help. The only time that stance would work is if he had them trapped or they chose to fight on the inside. Which of course they wouldn't.


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                  Listen, it's not that easy. Especially against a counter puncher like Broner. Even Marquez utilizes a wide stance because it enables him to counter punch. You guys need to look at the big picture and what the purpose of footwork is based on the style of the fighter. One type of footwork doesn't work for all. It all boils down to if it allows the fighter to do the 3 things I said earlier. Period.

                  When have you seen Broner out of balance? Never. Broner has knocked guys down after taking a half step back and countering with a straight right as well as a quick half step back and catching a guy coming in with a left hook. Do you know how great of footwork you have to have to pull off those kind of moves? Broner's footwork allows him to do all 3 of those things I mentioned before without losing hardly any energy. If it works, it's good footwork. Period.
                  The only reason why Broner's so called footwork worked for him is cause of the opposition. Didn't work so well when Ponce was moving on him or when Quintero brought the heat to him did it? Once he faces someone who moves and doesn't let themselves get walked down he will have to adjust and will he be able to? My money says no.


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                  • mconstantine
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by retnuocllup
                    if that's the case then every boxer's foot work is good, because whatever foot work they got, it's the right foot work for them because it's what works for them.
                    Wrong, let me SHOW you guys what I am talking about.

                    VERY few fighters can do what Broner does at 1:03 in this video. Most boxers when they take a half step back, they are not in position to immediately be able to throw that right hand like he does. His footwork allowed him to do that.

                    VERY few fighters can do what Broner does at 1:11 in this video, again, taking a quick half step back and still being balanced and in position to throw that left hook with enough mustard on it to mean something. That is superior footwork.



                    Look at him on the mitts at :20 on this video. Look at how quickly he's able to change the angle without getting out of balance or out of his stance. Not for a split second is he NOT in position to defend or strike. That is good footwork.



                    Footwork = Being able to get from point A to point B quickly and maintaining balance/stance to always be in a position to defend or strike.

                    Again, if you understand what the purpose of footwork is, you'd know his footwork is fine.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by retnuocllup
                      Broner is more stationary.... like James Toney more than Floyd
                      toney had more body upper body movement than broner does. then again toney was fighting beasts like nunn.

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