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  • The Ninth Layer
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    #151
    You guys are missing the big picture.

    Golden Boy has 140-154 locked down but their presence in the other divisions is practically non-existent. Seth Mitchell and I think Deontay Wilder at heavyweight, Bernard Hopkins at light heavyweight (but he is on his way out, let's be real), Mares at super bantamweight.

    They have a lot of named fighters at 140-154 but that means a lot of fighters to divide up Showtimes budget, and probably not much room for anything else.

    You guys are forgetting all the great fighters in other weight classes that WILL be fighting on HBO. They are heavily invested in the middleweight division (Martinez, Chavez, Golovkin), super middleweight division (Andre Ward, Carl Froch, Lucian Bute, Mikkel Kessler), and light heavyweight division (Chad Dawson, Tavoris Cloud, Jean Pascal). They have Donaire in super bantamweight who is frankly a bigger star than Mares in terms of ratings.

    The guys I listed are almost all top 20 or top 10 pound for pound fighters. HBO has the budget to invest in these varied divisions.

    Showtime has tied themselves to Golden Boy for better or worse. I doubt they will have enough funds to invest in these other divisions, since they will have to cover many of the GBP "stars" that will now only fight on their network.

    I have not even mentioned Top Rank's four big stars in the vicinity of welterweight, Manny Pacquiao, Tim Bradley, Juan Manuel Marquez and Brandon Rios. Those four guys are as good as Golden Boy's best four guys at the same weight, they are certainly good enough to carry shows on their own.
    Last edited by The Ninth Layer; 03-19-2013, 04:26 AM.

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    • PEBBLES!
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      #152
      this only serves to deepen the GBP/TRI rift.

      one promotional outfit and one network on one side, and the other promotional outfit and the the other network on the other side.

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      • Mike D
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        #153
        Originally posted by controlmachete
        Im keeping my hbo subscription just in case jmm vs pac 5 is made, ill have the "cancel subscription" button ready to be pushed 1 second after marquez ktfoes manny again...

        After that ill crack a tecate open and lit a veladora to san juan manuel, the saint of all pinoy insomniacs, theres no pinoy he cant put to sleep...

        Ummmm your HBO subscription ain't gonna help if that fight gets made. That will be on PPV, buddy.

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        • dc3383
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          #154
          Originally posted by The Ninth Layer
          You guys are missing the big picture.

          Golden Boy has 140-154 locked down but their presence in the other divisions is practically non-existent. Seth Mitchell and I think Deontay Wilder at heavyweight, Bernard Hopkins at light heavyweight (but he is on his way out, let's be real), Mares at super bantamweight.

          They have a lot of named fighters at 140-154 but that means a lot of fighters to divide up Showtimes budget, and probably not much room for anything else.

          You guys are forgetting all the great fighters in other weight classes that WILL be fighting on HBO. They are heavily invested in the middleweight division (Martinez, Chavez, Golovkin), super middleweight division (Andre Ward, Carl Froch, Lucian Bute, Mikkel Kessler), and light heavyweight division (Chad Dawson, Tavoris Cloud, Jean Pascal). They have Donaire in super bantamweight who is frankly a bigger star than Mares in terms of ratings.

          The guys I listed are almost all top 20 or top 10 pound for pound fighters. HBO has the budget to invest in these varied divisions.

          Showtime has tied themselves to Golden Boy for better or worse. I doubt they will have enough funds to invest in these other divisions, since they will have to cover many of the GBP "stars" that will now only fight on their network.

          I have not even mentioned Top Rank's four big stars in the vicinity of welterweight, Manny Pacquiao, Tim Bradley, Juan Manuel Marquez and Brandon Rios. Those four guys are as good as Golden Boy's best four guys at the same weight, they are certainly good enough to carry shows on their own.
          When has Froch,Kessler or Bute ever fought on HBO last time I checked the Super 6 was on Showtime as well Froch vs Bute. Sergio is about done and so is Manny and Marquez. Rios has sold as many PPV's as me and which company holds all the elite fighters in his weight class.

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          • Light_Speed
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            #155
            The networks are getting pimped by the promoters. SMH

            Top Rank's stable is shrinking though, they'll be forced to work with Dibella/Shaw/Goosen/Main Events which is a good thing.

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            • GoogleMe
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              #156
              Now we have UFC and Strikeforce like conditions. No fighter will fight eachother again... Only within the "organizations". This is so bad!

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