IMO nothing to debate really..... Just voted
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Originally posted by Dominicano Soy View PostRoy wasn't in his prime either, even then, that version of Hopkins would clean the house at 160 today.
If B-Hop and Toney are not looked at as what they were as opposed to what they became or were beforehand, then yes there is a lot to debate~
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostI don't agree B-Hop had trouble after that fight with lesser middleweights than Sergio, to me that is crazy talk.
If B-Hop and Toney are not looked at as what they were as opposed to what they became or were beforehand, then yes there is a lot to debate~
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Originally posted by Dominicano Soy View PostLook, Toney never had good foot speed, he could bedazzle you with angles if you stood up close but display good movement against him and he wasn't the same guy. I used to think that Toney would have displayed far more than he showed against Roy but I doubt that now. What Hopkins' fight are you talkin' about, because again, that version of Hop would have mopped the floor with any current MW including Martinez.
Toney all I have to do is watch his fight and I can see his decline clearly, now Jones made that problem way worse and is totally wrong for Toney.
Like I said previously though it is not a matter of them not being quality wins, it is a matter of degree. I personally think people go way overboard on them but even with that you can still say Jones did better
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