I scored Cloud vs Hopkins a draw...

[junior gong]

no, its because you dont know how to score a fight so nobody gives a fucc what you think. you can laugh all you want, that doesnt change the fact that everyone else is laughing at you.

In the interest of balance, you got upset that someone suggested Borehard could possibly be taking PED's(dont recall you getting so uppity about Manny being accused..hmm), so your opinion is worth less than his as you are clearly biased as **** and possibly a bit of a bumsniff.

[Barry Halls]

Says who? In NSB and in the eyes of some of these judges you do...

As per the rules.

I don't care about people making up their own criterias. It's not reality.

[raskat]

1: Hopkins
2: Cloud
3: Hopkins
4: Hopkins
5: Cloud
6: Hopkins
7: Hopkins
8: Cloud
9: Hopkins
10: Hopkins
11: Hopkins
12: Hopkins

117-111 Hopkins

I guess 1st and 12th could go to Cloud but i disagree. Worst case scenario 115-113.

Now you score your 4 10-10 rounds as that is completely out of the norm.

I rewatched rounds 7 and 10 and if you thought Hopkins won those rounds, there is no need to argue with you anymore. Those 2 rounds were close just like every single round in the whole fight, but if anyone edged them, it was Cloud.
That is what I said before, the whole fight was very close and all the rounds were very close, I cannot remember a fight in which I scored 4 rounds a draw.
But the bottom line is this: if you want to give Hopkins rounds, you will do it. And HBO wants to do that, and that is why they do it. If you forget about the ****** commentary and watch rounds 7 and 10 and if you are honest, you can see how somebody would score them for Cloud.
But if you don't care about the truth because you are a Hopkins fan, or if you just don't know boxing, you will score every single round of this fight for Hopkins.
I had it a draw and felt if anyone edged it, it was Cloud.

[Barry Halls]

I thought you were going to pick my scorecard apart?

Every single media outlet i've seen has scored this for Hopkins. If you make a poll about it something like 90-95% will vote Hopkins.
Does that not tell you something?

Not to mention the compubox statistics. Hopkins landed more and most important HARDER shots than Cloud. A lot of clouds counted punches where short flurries to the body on the break which had almost zero effect.

I think you're one of those that enjoy getting attention and rile up a crowd. It wont work with me. I got reality on my side.

[raskat]

By the way this fight reminded me of Hopkins vs Winky Wright: a very close fight which I didn't score, but overall it felt like a draw.
Typical Hopkins fight with a lot of fouling from him, he headbutted Wright lots of times, but overall I felt both had their moments and it was a draw. But Hopkins got a wide decision.

[raskat]

I thought you were going to pick my scorecard apart?

I already did.

[Barry Halls]

I already did.

so this is how it feel like to having been picked apart.
I must say it was a mild treatment.

I guess i should just let my posts stand for themselves and let other, less skilled in spotting a troll, posters give you the much wanted attention.

[Curtiz]

Hard work....Defecation.

i said it before mayweather, its not exactly a revelation the saying is it


& in regards to the scorecard

if i really wanted to i could argue santa claus was real, at the end of the day we all know its bull****

[Stuntman Mike]

clean effective punches raskat, you idiot

[Prince_Pugilist]

I can see why some think the fight was a draw. In no way did Hopkins dominate Cloud, apart from a couple of rounds where Cloud's work rate just completely dropped. Hopkins did have the cleaner punches and I had him winning by a point or 2. It was a close fight with some rounds, especially the early ones, being almost impossible to score.

But what ever your score, Hopkins was the most likely winner and at 48, against a guy who hits pretty hard, that is a great achievement.