Rigondeaux "I wouldn't put Nono on the Top 5 p4p List, he is not on that level"

[CubanGuyNYC]

Take away anybodies 2 best wins and they wont have a P4P caliber resume either. Only Pac and Floyd would be left on the list, the 2 best fighters of our generation. What a noob thing to say.

Not that I necessarily agree, but what I believe what he meant to say is that Donaire's two best wins shouldn't count because they were smaller men.

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Of coarse not. But take away Darch and Montiel (which were much smaller men, mind you) and Donaire doesn't have a P4P caliber resume.

Take away anybodies 2 best wins and they wont have a P4P caliber resume either. Only Pac and Floyd would be left on the list, the 2 best fighters of our generation. What a noob thing to say.

Not Ward's resume.


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[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Originally Posted by Russian Crushin

Take away anybodies 2 best wins and they wont have a P4P caliber resume either. Only Pac and Floyd would be left on the list, the 2 best fighters of our generation. What a noob thing to say.

Not that I necessarily agree, but what I believe what he meant to say is that Donaire's two best wins shouldn't count because they were smaller men.

That's even a dumber thing to say. But then again anything its expected from this guy. He's the one trying to insult cubans for no apparent reason. I guess the Klistchko's didn't belong on the P4P list either then.



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[CubanGuyNYC]

Anyway, I'm not really too concerned where Donaire belongs on the P4P list, or whether he belongs there to begin with. I'm much more concerned with his overall quality as a fighter. I believe Nonito is pretty damn good, and Rigo has to bring his "A"-game to have a real shot. If it turns out Donaire was over-hyped, all the better.

[Russian Crushin]

Not that I necessarily agree, but what I believe what he meant to say is that Donaire's two best wins shouldn't count because they were smaller men.

Thats an even dumber argument.

[IronDanHamza]

Donaire is clearly a Top P4P calibur fighter.

In both resume and skills.

[IronDanHamza]

Not Ward's resume.


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How so?

Take Froch and Kessler from Ward's resume and who's left?

Abraham and? Sakio Bika? Allen Green? Chad Dawson's corpse?

[CubanGuyNYC]

Thats an even dumber argument.

In Darchinyan's case, perhaps. Vic is listed at the same height as Donaire, but perhaps appears shorter because he crouches more than Nonito. Montiel is listed at 5' 4". That's even shorter than Rigo, whom everyone seems to think Donaire towers over.

[devildg]

if he's not top 5, then he's top 10

what's the difference? many guys have similar resumes and similar levels of ability.



BUT if anyone who says Donaire is not top 10, then he's just a hater

[Boxfan7819]

That doesn't make any sense. What point is there in pretending his two best wins don't exist? Both Darch and Montiel were considered p4p at time, and there's very few fighters who can even claim they have more than one p4p win.

And enough with the Donaire fighting smaller fighters crap. Donaire is usually the smaller man, including against Montiel.

I dont understand either but it doesnt matter people will still say that donaire is fighter smaller guys when the statistics are right there in those pics