Comments Thread For: Pablo Cesar Cano Focused on Securing Title Shot Soon

[lopez36]

hes only 23? too bad he cuts easily, that one cut againt malignaggi was one of the worst i have ever seen

[S. Saddler 1310]

He still beat the 147 belt holder. The belt wasnt on the line anyway, so even if he won on the cards he wouldnt be the WBA champ

and why was the title not on the line? because he missed weight. the title was officially on the line right up until one day before the fight.

your comment seemed to suggest that fighters should be excused for coming in heavy and be granted titles regardless of whether or not they make the weight for sanctioned title bouts.

he arguably beat the belt-holder, but he didn't work as hard as his opponent did to make the weight, which devalues his showing somewhat.

[Russian Crushin]

and why was the title not on the line? because he missed weight. the title was officially on the line right up until one day before the fight.

your comment seemed to suggest that fighters should be excused for coming in heavy and be granted titles regardless of whether or not they make the weight for sanctioned title bouts.

What does him missing weight have anything to do with it being on the line for Paulie? It would still be an easy defense, right

No im not suggesting that, just the fact that a fat, raw, slow 140 fighter beat Paulie, the 147 WBA champ, whether the title was on the line or not.

Yea he was .5 pounds over or whatever, im not saying he should hold the belt but he did beat the 147 champ

[fceeviper]

How about you come in shape this time around Cano!

[S. Saddler 1310]

What does him missing weight have anything to do with it being on the line for Paulie? It would still be an easy defense, right

you seem to have forgotten your exact words,

"Its ok, you're already the 147 WBA champ"

the particular argument we're engaged in isn't about whether Paulie's title should have been left up for him to lose after Cano missed weight, but rather this notion that Cano deserves championship credit for having arguably beaten Malignaggi after coming in heavy.

i'm not sure how relevant it is that Malignaggi was heavily favoured to win, but i wasn't one of the guys who thought he would get an easy night with Cano's mix of style and attributes. i'd seen Cano give a good account of himself against a far better fighter in Morales (even as far past his prime as he is, his skill-base exceeds Malignaggi's) and was mildly impressed with the kid. more relevant than his being "fat" (Juan Diaz, a fighter with excellent stamina, used to box with a fold of bodyfat spilling over his trunks and was highly effective doing so), young Cano (a 140lb campaigner) hadn't had to expend the same energy to make the limit that his physically matured opponent had. slow? that's a deceptive argument and pure speed isn't the be-all and end-all. using what you have effectively is more important. many quick men do not know how to harness their speed to maximum effect (Judah, for example).

[Russian Crushin]

you seem to have forgotten your exact words,

"Its ok, you're already the 147 WBA champ"

the particular argument we're engaged in isn't about whether Paulie's title should have been left up for him to lose after Cano missed weight, but rather this notion that Cano deserves championship credit for having arguably beaten Malignaggi after coming in heavy.

i'm not sure how relevant it is that Malignaggi was heavily favoured to win, but i wasn't one of the guys who thought he would get an easy night with Cano's mix of style and attributes. i'd seen Cano give a good account of himself against a far better fighter in Morales (even as far past his prime as he is, his skill-base exceeds Malignaggi's) and was mildly impressed with the kid. more relevant than his being "fat" (Juan Diaz, a fighter with excellent stamina, used to box with a fold of bodyfat spilling over his trunks and was highly effective doing so), young Cano (a 140lb campaigner) hadn't had to expend the same energy to make the limit that his physically matured opponent had. slow? that's a deceptive argument and pure speed isn't the be-all and end-all. using what you have effectively is more important. many quick men do not know how to harness their speed to maximum effect (Judah, for example).

You're taking my words waaaay too literally, he's obviously not the WBA 147 champ.

Yea he weighed .5 pounds over, so? Im not making a literal case for him being crowned the WBA champ. Point is he beat Paulie

[S. Saddler 1310]

You're taking my words waaaay too literally, he's obviously not the WBA 147 champ.

Yea he weighed .5 pounds over, so? Im not making a literal case for him being crowned the WBA champ. Point is he beat Paulie

i already stated the significance of him coming in heavy.

and i didn't take your words literally at all. rather, i took exception to an implication, ie. that Cano is somehow the rightful holder of the WBA title. even had he knocked Malignaggi out cold, it wouldn't have counted a wit as far as that title was concerned and nor should it have.


in your opinion he beat Paulie. this thread is about him chasing a title shot and his worthiness thereof.

[TheGunslinger]

hes only 23? too bad he cuts easily, that one cut againt malignaggi was one of the worst i have ever seen

Yeah that's his biggest problem too bad it's something he can't really help. That's how Morales stopped him on cuts.

[whoseyourdaddy]

i already stated the significance of him coming in heavy.

and i didn't take your words literally at all. rather, i took exception to an implication, ie. that Cano is somehow the rightful holder of the WBA title. even had he knocked Malignaggi out cold, it wouldn't have counted a wit as far as that title was concerned and nor should it have.


in your opinion he beat Paulie. this thread is about him chasing a title shot and his worthiness thereof.

You fool seem to forget that he was given the fight in short notice, Malignaggi was suposed to fight somebody else prior to Cano, that fight fell through so I would cut him some slag for that, but Rios, Broner and Morales....have no excuse.

[S. Saddler 1310]

You fool seem to forget that he was given the fight in short notice, Malignaggi was suposed to fight somebody else prior to Cano, that fight fell through so I would cut him some slag for that, but Rios, Broner and Morales....have no excuse.

is this a pisstake? Cano received notice that he'd be fighting Paulie at least 2 and a half months prior to the date of the fight. that is not short notice. the average training camp lasts 8 weeks. can you do the math or do i have to do it for you?