If Canelo struggles/looks bad but wins, should Floyd still fight him?

[cixthree]

struggling with cotto's big bro and then demanding a figth is why he didn't get a gurantee, struggling but winning with trout is still a great win.

as a hardcore I agree, but to the casuals maybe not.

[cixthree]

From complete morons maybe.

Canelo should go life and death with Trout. It's a very even fight. As long as he wins he's a proven fighter.

casuals are morons & the majority, WE are a drop in the bucket.

[cixthree]

we read your post but it doesn't make any sense.

If you understand that the casual fan makes up 90% of the paying audience it makes perfect sense.
Boxing for the most part is/has always been in the state it's in cause casuals rule.
What we want comes second, but if the guy we want makes his case, then the casuals usually follow

[The Big Dunn]

If you understand that the casual fan makes up 90% of the paying audience it makes perfect sense.
Boxing for the most part is/has always been in the state it's in cause casuals rule.
What we want comes second, but if the guy we want makes his case, then the casuals usually follow

Respectfully, I think you are over thinking this a little too much. As long as floyd and Canelo both win, regardless of how, there will still be fans both hardcore and casual, that want to see them fight. Both have high enough name value that either struggling wont curb enthusiasm for the fight IMO.

[Barry Halls]

If you understand that the casual fan makes up 90% of the paying audience it makes perfect sense.
Boxing for the most part is/has always been in the state it's in cause casuals rule.
What we want comes second, but if the guy we want makes his case, then the casuals usually follow

The casual fans are not the ones spewing about Floyd ducking left and right.

Canelo is bigger with the casual fans than anyone else that Floyd can fight, so why wouldn't he? The exposure a large part of the casuals have of Devon Alexander is his shameful performance against Bradley.

The Casuals will eat up whatever they are hyped into believing. It's much easier to hype an undefeated Mexican kid than it is anyone at 147.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

I'm sure them being Mexican Americans and coming off impressive wins has a whole lot to do with it. That's why he makes the fights on Mexican holidays. The "us vs them" situation has always sold fights.

[cixthree]

Respectfully, I think you are over thinking this a little too much. As long as floyd and Canelo both win, regardless of how, there will still be fans both hardcore and casual, that want to see them fight. Both have high enough name value that either struggling wont curb enthusiasm for the fight IMO.

Respectfully, I think you're under thinking this. I agree with 99.999% of what you said, but you have to admit, Canelo destroying Trout damn near doubles the hype. But Canelo struggling would hurt sales & the legitimacy of that match up.
We as hardcores lose site sometimes that boxing is a business.

[DLT]

Recently Floyd's opponents have come off impressive wins. Just winning a fight doesn't seem to be enough, you seem to need an impressive win in order for the public to wanna pay to see you face Floyd.

As hardcores we know Ginger is the logical choice, but if he struggles with Trout (a basic unknown to the casuals), a Floyd/Canelo fight loses steam.

I think that's one of the reasons a guarantee wasn't given, Canelo/Trout was Gingers audition on Floyd's card.
Canelo struggling but winning is just not enough, cause to those who witnessed it Floyd would be seen as "cherry picking".

But if Canelo destroys Trout (Mosley/Marg, Victor/Berto, Robert/Berto), it has all the steam it needs.
I doubt Floyd's avoiding Canelo, Canelo has to bring it impressively to convince people to pay to see it.
But if he fizzles, it's a waste in the casuals/majority's eyes.

What you think?

I disagree. Casual fans can be unaware but they all still know who Floyd is and they all still know who Cotto is. They all saw (what some say on this site is Floyd struggling with Cotto) so once they know that Trout (easily to some here) beat Cotto then a Canelo win will be impressive no matter what. Infact, it could be seen as even more impressive if Canelo does have a tough fight with him

[cixthree]

The casual fans are not the ones spewing about Floyd ducking left and right.

Canelo is bigger with the casual fans than anyone else that Floyd can fight, so why wouldn't he? The exposure a large part of the casuals have of Devon Alexander is his shameful performance against Bradley.

The Casuals will eat up whatever they are hyped into believing. It's much easier to hype an undefeated Mexican kid than it is anyone at 147.

Struggling with Trout WILL NOT convince the casual fans Canelo is a legit threat to Floyd (Just being real man).
I agree with what you're saying, but a struggling Canelo hurts the hype/sales.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

I'm sure them being Mexican Americans and coming off impressive wins has a whole lot to do with it. That's why he makes the fights on Mexican holidays. The "us vs them" situation has always sold fights.

OOPs, wrong thread.... If Canelo looks bad, Floyd shouldn't fight him, but he probably would. If Canelo looks great, I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd avoids him.