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  • Russian Crushin
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    #51
    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
    Danny is the champ of the 140lb div bro..Khan was move to number1 spot after Peterson was busted for ped use..Garcia was moved up to the 2end spot..It was a plot to give Khan the ring belt, that backfired...
    Peterson was moved by Ring, yes. It still didnt make him Khan the #1 guy, peterson beat him and was #1. It was a new rule Ring made right after Peterson failed that anyone who fails a drug test gets dropped, which is why JCC is still ranked by them

    You admit the chance to fight for the Ring belt was set up by the Ring, which is why it doesnt create a lineage
    Last edited by Russian Crushin; 03-06-2013, 02:58 PM.

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    • SnakeVen0m
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      #52
      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
      Thats all due to GBP giving him these "opportunities" and screwing Lucas over. Just because he got to fight a paper belt holder doesnt make him any better then lucas. Point is Garcia, lucas and Peterson are 1.A,B and C at 140
      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
      Well he its the champ of the Div, that's good enough for me..
      LMAO, you two still going at it? Bottom line is Garcia is number 1 at 140 by default. He took advantage of his opportunities and became a champion. No denying he got help being a Haymon and a GBP fighter but he capitalized on them. Nothing wrong with that.

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      • Russian Crushin
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        #53
        Originally posted by SnakeVen0m
        LMAO, you two still going at it? Bottom line is Garcia is number 1 at 140 by default. He took advantage of his opportunities and became a champion. No denying he got help being a Haymon and a GBP fighter but he capitalized on them. Nothing wrong with that.
        By default? He got a #2 Ring ranking by beating a 20th+ ranked Morales JUST because his name is Morales and he had the worst paper belt by beating 50th ranked Cano. Its hilarious

        He didnt get it by default, he got it by being undeservingly shot up in rankings and then got the undeserved Ring 140 belt because they tried making Khan the RIng champ and bumped both of them to #1 and #2, undeservingly, which backfired.

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        • IIG
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          #54
          Danny proved himself to me a long time ago. Some people take longer to catch on I guess, but he's the real deal.

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          • Rome-By-Ko
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            #55
            Originally posted by Russian Crushin
            No he didnt

            No he isnt. He beat a realistically 20th ranked Morales, then faced him again when his ranked should have dropped even more, So what if he had a fake paper belt? He then beat #2 ranked Khan off a loss. How does this make him a champ? He certainly has not earned a spot to be called 140 champ, but he has earned the spot to be on the same level as peterson and Lucas
            Why don't you ever deal on facts?? Facts are, Garcia is the Champ at 140lb, and Matts had opportunities that he did not take advantage of..Those are the facts, what your talking is opinion bro..

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            • SnakeVen0m
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              #56
              Originally posted by Russian Crushin
              By default? He got a #2 Ring ranking by beating a 20th+ ranked Morales JUST because his name is Morales and he had the worst paper belt by beating 50th ranked Cano. Its hilarious

              He didnt get it by default, he got it by being undeservingly shot up in rankings and then got the undeserved Ring 140 belt because they tried making Khan the RIng champ and bumped both of them to #1 and #2, undeservingly, which backfired.
              Ok so, what makes you number 1 in a division? Beating ranked competition or holding multiple belts? He has a decent resume but I don't think it's better than Matthysses'

              I consider him number one simply for holding the WBC, WBA, WBA Super, and Ring belts.

              If that doesn't make you number 1, I don't know what does.

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                #57
                People are always looking 1 fight ahead saying a fighter needs to be fighting someone else,they can only fight 1 fight at a time.

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                • Russian Crushin
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by SnakeVen0m
                  Ok so, what makes you number 1 in a division? Beating ranked competition or holding multiple belts? He has a decent resume but I don't think it's better than Matthysses'

                  I consider him number one simply for holding the WBC, WBA, WBA Super, and Ring belts.

                  If that doesn't make you number 1, I don't know what does.
                  Belts don't make you a better fighter, having a better resume and beating better comp makes you #1.

                  Manufactured ranking and belts don't make you better

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                  • Russian Crushin
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                    Why don't you ever deal on facts?? Facts are, Garcia is the Champ at 140lb, and Matts had opportunities that he did not take advantage of..Those are the facts, what your talking is opinion bro..
                    Fact is Garcia is a ring belt champ but not the 140 champ

                    Nothing fact, the lineal title doesn't follow the ring belt

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                      Fact is Garcia is a ring belt champ but not the 140 champ

                      Nothing fact, the lineal title doesn't follow the ring belt
                      So who the **** is the 140 lb champion than if that is the case???

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