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  • #51
    Originally posted by Cuban Linx View Post
    Fixed.

    Haye lost, deal with it.
    David Haye wouldn't even fight him in the first place he wants coffin dodger Vitali Klitschko instead...
    Infact wait...
    I'll tell you what will happen If Tyson Fury don't fight Tony Thompson David Haye will, so predictable.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
      Here, why not be honest and admit you were wrong?
      I'm not wrong in any way, shape or form. You obssessively think that I'm referring to you. Like I said, I'm not interested in you and your Klit bias. Or the fact that anyone, who the Klits fight, are good fighters in your biased mind.

      You might be able to hoodwink everyone else with your Klit bias but it doesn't wash with me.



      It's funny nobody truthfully seems to know him, yet he gets a title shot from the very person who sacked them for being a poor sparrer!!

      The division is a farce and this selection sums it all up.

      Last edited by Jedi Vader; 03-05-2013, 04:59 PM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Freedom. View Post




        Hey thanks for that

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        • #54
          I suppose Pianeta might have been the best fighter available, but that doesn't make this fight any better. Wladimir is too good to be wasting time on fringe contenders who haven't earnt a shot and I think it shows a lack of respect to his fans to expect them to pay for this mismatch. I don't blame Wladimir, I blame his management.

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          • #55
            I don't know who Pianetta is, but Wlad is a professional boxer and has the right to box! Haye was the last contender that any argument over ducking could be made for, weak as it may have been, and that's now been and gone.

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            • #56
              Wlad will probably finish him by the 2nd rd.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Jedi Vader View Post
                Another embarrassing scalp for the Klit boys.

                Pianeta has done zilch to earn this Championship fight. Anyone who dares to say they know him and have followed his career are blatantly lying and have quickly watched all of his fights on youtube and have read his boxingrec to try and justify this joke of a match up.
                i got some pianeta fights coming in my collection soon. just haven't got to him yet. i believe i only have about 10 of his fights but they are vs the best opposition he has faced yet. it's a tough sell to me but K2 will make their millions...

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by paulf View Post
                  Fight for peanuts? You must be joking.

                  Look, all the revenue is being generated by Wladimir/K2 in these fights. If a guy like Fury or Povetkin want more than what the challenger is offered on an optional defense, let them fight their way into the mandatory position, or call the Klitschkos out and keep building up their fame to a respectable level, and then bring it to the negotiating table like David Haye did.

                  Klitschko challengers on an optional defense get, what, between 750k and a little over a million, right?

                  How much did Arreola make fighting Molina and Butler, his last two opponents? Less than 50 grand each, yeah?

                  Yet he still turned down a fight with Wladimir in NYC last fall, which would have definitely landed over a million in his pocket.

                  It's not that these guys don't want to fight, and it's not that these guys don't want to fight for little money, it's that these guys don't want to lose. They're all dragging their feet, circling like vultures in hopes that Vitali will retire, Wlad will get old or lose to someone else, whatever they can do to find a way to become champion without facing THE champion.
                  This is the best post yet. Precisely.

                  The Klitschko's (especially Wlad) don't just control the money because they've got a monopoly on the belts that everyone wants, they control who gets what because they're the cash cow, the draw. And it's been proven. No matter what opponent they pick, the arena is sold out and the networks are making money on advertisements/ratings.

                  If you're confident that you can beat a Klitschko and you're not just looking for a cash-out fight, then just take the fight and beat them.
                  Last edited by cupocity303; 03-05-2013, 08:11 PM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by P4P Opinion View Post
                    I suppose Pianeta might have been the best fighter available, but that doesn't make this fight any better. Wladimir is too good to be wasting time on fringe contenders who haven't earnt a shot and I think it shows a lack of respect to his fans to expect them to pay for this mismatch. I don't blame Wladimir, I blame his management.
                    Nah, not at all. Wlad is doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing. DIVERSIFYING.

                    One fight he is fighting a seasoned, experienced former champion (albeit washed up), the next fight he is fight a inexperienced, young, tall, undefeated fighter who has yet to accomplish something. That's called mixing it up.

                    And I always keep saying this and I'm gonna say this again. THE NAMES don't matter anymore. The consensus is that the entire division sucks. It's about numbers and title defenses now. So what he needs to do is just stay active and keep racking up title defenses.

                    I.E. Stop by in Austria and kick some prime, undefeated, young ass, then fly over to Germany and kick some washed up name. Then take a trip to the States and kick some harpoon whale ass in Arreola in front of his hometown crowd. Something of that nature. But keep knocking off some of these young, undefeated guys before they become top contenders by fighting nobodies. There is plenty of them. Everywhere i look, there is some 6'6 tall undefeated guy coming up.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by edgarg View Post
                      To me everything yoy arewriting is hearsay. i know that Briggs was saying he hadnot been paid yet, but I think that had nothing to do with the Klitschkos but his manager.

                      I DO know that Povetkin was offered over $2mill to fight Klitschko, I'm not sure but he may not have even been champion yet (correction?) I Know this from corroborative evidence. Teddy Atlas advised him not to fight, and said that he was actually losing his own $200,000 trainers fee, which showed he was being altruistic (although he didn't use that word). He may have been getting 10%, although if he were getting less it would mean that Povetkin's purse was higher than $2 mill.

                      Valuev was offered $2.5 mill to fight the elder Klitschko, and he wasn't even champion then. He wanted to take it but complained that Don King insisted on $4 mill. It was all published on Boxingscene.
                      i know povetkin turned down 2 mil on atlas's request(he was the mandatory) & the valuev situation too. i never said anything about briggs not getting paid. i said when it was all said & done he walked out with little money. chisora got half a million as was posted here a few times. all the purses i mentioned for guys from the 90s is on the telecasts that i have posted in the trading section & most are in english. obviously valuev & povetkin are going to be paid more because of their status in the sport & positioning in the rankings. this is a tough sport & one punch could end your career. people are not going to be lining up to fight either klitschko if they are not going to be compensated well. boxing pay scales have changed. it use to be huge money in the states now it's nothing. 500000 for a HW title shot is chump change & quite frankly a joke in my opinion. if you got a title shot back in the 90's you were almost guaranteed a 7 digit paycheck unless you are bobby czyz or jesse ferguson who were unworthy challengers...

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