Comments Thread For: Klitschko-Pianeta Finalized For May 4th at The SAP Arena

[The Hammer]

Um, your point?

Anyone who dares to say they know him and have followed his career are blatantly lying

Who was lying?

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...hlight=Pianeta

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...65&postcount=1

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=29

[Jedi Vader]

Who was lying?

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...hlight=Pianeta

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...65&postcount=1

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=29

What, you've written his name in an undercard??

In one link, you're telling us what a great prospect he is, yet he gets sent home by Klit because he's useless as a sparing partner but hey presto, he gets a Championship shot!!! You were bigging him up to make the division sound healthy!!

That is how bad the division has got. There are plenty of disgruntled boxing fans who share my frustration on this very thread. Nobody knows him.

[edgarg]

My point is instead of sorting out the Povetkin contract now they are wanting to wait until after this fight, when the purpose of the damn fight supposed to be to keep him busy while they sort out the Povetkin contract. You dense fool.

Klitschko is running a (n entertainment) business. His schedule is for 3 fights a year. He probably has all kinds of plans in place to stream the expected income. So obviously, he will take a "stay busy" fight whilst his people are fixing up the Povetkin details.

Isn't it obvious?

[The Hammer]

What, you've written his name in an undercard??

Televised co-feature.

You said I've never seen him, yet I was giving a RBR of his fight with Skelton years ago.

In one link, you're telling us what a great prospect he is, yet he gets sent home by Klit because he's useless as a sparing partner but hey presto, he gets a Championship shot!!! You were bigging him up to make the division sound healthy!!

You said I was LYING and had never heard of him.

If you had done a search before making your false accusation, you'd have seen I've made well over a hundred posts about Pianeta, going back to early 2008 just after I joined boxingscene.

He was treated for CANCER, and he didn't look very good when he first came back, but he's fine now. He had some bad luck, I'm happy to see he's getting a title shot.

[Jedi Vader]

Televised co-feature.

You said I've never seen him, yet I was giving a RBR of his fight with Skelton years ago.

You said I was LYING and had never heard of him.

I said YOU were lying?? Where did I say that? You're so sensitive it defies belief.

If you had done a search before making your false accusation, you'd have seen I've made well over a hundred posts about Pianeta, going back to early 2008 just after I joined boxingscene.

He was treated for CANCER, and he didn't look very good when he first came back, but he's fine now. He had some bad luch, I'm happy to see he's getting a title shot.

I read about the cancer the last few days and that's awful. However, that has nothing to do with his abilities as a fighter.

I'm not interested in you and what you've wrote about Pianeta. I stopped relying on your heavyweight 'expertise' after you'd pioneered to us that Fury and Price were very good up and comers. Along with many more inept heavyweight 'contenders'

You've told us that Pianeta is a good fighter, yet nobody knows him, nobody wants him getting a title shot except for Klit who wants him next although he wasn't good enough to spar with him.

What a farce.

[edgarg]

this is the real issue with many contenders. who would want to get their ass kicked by a klitschko for no money? they lowball all their opponents. chris byrd got 2 million but he was the champion. IBF rules have a 75\25 purse split on mandatories but K2 was able to line the IBF officials pockets to get down to 85\15 for the thompson fight. seldon 3.5 milliin to fight tyson, grant 5 million to fight lewis, bowe 14 as challenger to fight holyfield...then chisora 450000 & whatever lowball offers were made to others. why would anyone want to face a klitschko 3 times in a row(if these clauses exist)for no money? that is career suicide. after 3 beatings from the klitschkos byrd & peter were never the same after. at least byrd made a few million. solis got 1.8 million to fight vitali which is good but that was forced upon by the WBC purse split....i will use shannon briggs as an example. vitali broke his face & by the time the medical bills were settled he never got a cent. imagine if briggs somehow pulled out a miracle KO like he did to liakhovich. do you think he would actually want to get in the ring again with either of them 1 or 2 more times? if the money is huge then by all means he would be all for it but on the other hand does he want to have his face broken again? as you said money talks!

To me everything yoy arewriting is hearsay. i know that Briggs was saying he hadnot been paid yet, but I think that had nothing to do with the Klitschkos but his manager.

I DO know that Povetkin was offered over $2mill to fight Klitschko, I'm not sure but he may not have even been champion yet (correction?) I Know this from corroborative evidence. Teddy Atlas advised him not to fight, and said that he was actually losing his own $200,000 trainers fee, which showed he was being altruistic (although he didn't use that word). He may have been getting 10%, although if he were getting less it would mean that Povetkin's purse was higher than $2 mill.

Valuev was offered $2.5 mill to fight the elder Klitschko, and he wasn't even champion then. He wanted to take it but complained that Don King insisted on $4 mill. It was all published on Boxingscene.

[paulf]

You must be joking. Not wanting to fight and not wanting to fight for peanuts and 3 options are two very different things. We all know by now that challengers are not exactly given any favours. Slave contracts for little money is not always enough. Money talks at the end of the day.

Fight for peanuts? You must be joking.

Look, all the revenue is being generated by Wladimir/K2 in these fights. If a guy like Fury or Povetkin want more than what the challenger is offered on an optional defense, let them fight their way into the mandatory position, or call the Klitschkos out and keep building up their fame to a respectable level, and then bring it to the negotiating table like David Haye did.

Klitschko challengers on an optional defense get, what, between 750k and a little over a million, right?

How much did Arreola make fighting Molina and Butler, his last two opponents? Less than 50 grand each, yeah?

Yet he still turned down a fight with Wladimir in NYC last fall, which would have definitely landed over a million in his pocket.

It's not that these guys don't want to fight, and it's not that these guys don't want to fight for little money, it's that these guys don't want to lose. They're all dragging their feet, circling like vultures in hopes that Vitali will retire, Wlad will get old or lose to someone else, whatever they can do to find a way to become champion without facing THE champion.

[M Bison]

Another Wladimir Klitschko fight announced today...

[The Hammer]

I said YOU were lying?? Where did I say that? You're so sensitive it defies belief.

Here, why not be honest and admit you were wrong?

Anyone who dares to say they know him and have followed his career are blatantly lying

[Cuban Linx]

That is how bad the division has got. There are plenty of disgruntled Brits who share my frustration on this very thread. Nobody knows him.

Fixed.

Haye lost, deal with it.