Vitali's legacy

[Daddy T]

When I think of the ATG heavyweights I think of guys that either took the world by storm, dominated as lineal/undisputed champ or had some epic fights that you can point to and say 'yeah he really proved his worth when he beat that guy' … you know I think of guys like the below …

Jack Johnson
Jack Dempsey
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
George Foreman
Larry Holmes
Mike Tyson
Evander Holyfield
Lennox Lewis etc….

(Wlad is almost there too btw but he hasn’t finished his career yet so hard to know where he will stand but I think if he keeps going the way he is he will get there … but Vits is nowhere near, his fans can twist facts and say ‘he would have done this … he could have beaten such and such but the fact is he didn’t)

[Tommo1]

Hahaha It's absolutely incredible isn't it. In real life world there is wide agreeance on what should be regarded as obvious facts! But here in forum land there is no such thing as common sense! There is far too much tolerance for the nutbag in the boxing community!

Vitali, like his brother, are 100% guaranteed to make the HOF and be ATG's no matter what contrary opinion is offered here. It's as sure a bet as secretariat.

You can watch old heroes of the past get smashed, and I DO MEAN SMASHED! from pillar to post in all of their fights and be regarded ATG and HOF and yet Vitali dominates every opponent, That is EVERY OPPONENT BAR 1! And the only one he didn't dominate he was still beating before unfortunately stopped. Yet does not rate as an ATG or make the HOF?

Crazy! Pure crazy!

[SN!PER]

Vit's running for President of Ukraine in 2015

[BattlingNelson]

Nowhere near it. Couple the crappy resume with the years of inactivity and the fact that he lost to the two best fighters he faced, and it should be quite clear to any unbiased observer that he doesn't make the cut. His younger brother is a different story, though.

It can only be clear that he doesn't make the cut if we can be told the names of the HW fighters who actually makes this cut.

[JAB5239]

Please don't use this forum as your fustration dumping ground. Here have I a very good suggestion for you : http://health.usnews.com/doctors/psychiatrists

This link should be used by all the Klit fans in denial.

[JAB5239]

You gotta love the whole "he was up on the scorecards!" argument that seems to be employed almost exclusively by Vitali's ball washers. Don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for both Vitali and Wlad, but that argument (if you can even call it that) is utterly absurd.

It's like saying that Christopher Reeve was totally dominating that equestrian competition until the horse broke his fucking neck.

Lmao!! You're the rudest, funnist mother****er on this site! But you're 100% right.

[ßringer]

That very well may be true, but how can you determine greatness on a question mark and just give a pass for fights not made?

And being up on the scorecards means nothing. In the end Lewis won by stoppage because he was the more durable fighter who landed the more effective punches.

You gotta love the whole "he was up on the scorecards!" argument that seems to be employed almost exclusively by Vitali's ball washers. Don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for both Vitali and Wlad, but that argument (if you can even call it that) is utterly absurd.

It's like saying that Christopher Reeve was totally dominating that equestrian competition until the horse broke his fucking neck.

[JAB5239]

Simple, I don't think Vitali would have lost a fight during those retirement years. Lewis was getting beaten by Vitali, and everyone since has been utterly outclassed. If an ATG like Lewis was losing to him, nobody after that aside from his brother, who he will never fight, stood a chance.

This means most likely, he wouldn't have lost a fight since the Lewis fight.

That very well may be true, but how can you determine greatness on a question mark and just give a pass for fights not made?

And being up on the scorecards means nothing. In the end Lewis won by stoppage because he was the more durable fighter who landed the more effective punches.

[Simurgh]

Ah I see, as usual, you both dodged my question.

you sad hater, you can't even read... i've said that bowe has better wins and vitali's resume is not atg just a few pages before...

[Dr.Eisenfaust]

Ah I see, as usual, you both dodged my question.

Yes I am too scared. booh...