The Cult of Rigo v. RIGOWAR

[Pacdbest]

The #1 Argument i've read here and elsewhere in defense of Donaire , is that Rigo has not 'proven' himself and his professional resume is lacking..and his amateur skill should not be taken into account, in addition to Rigo being "chinny".... To act as if amateur status should not be considered when rating a fighter is pure ignorance to begin with. In regards to chinny...basing this off a single counter left hook where his legs were a little shaken, and then to turn around and KD a guy who's never hit the canvas, and dominate every single round thereafter ..is the ******est crap ive ever heard in my life.

Now, Rigondeaux is the FIRST Cuban to win Two gold medals AND turn pro...There is only one other, László Papp, who won THREE gold medals in the Olympics, and was able to Turn pro, and the only thing stopping him was a Communist regime. He was undefeated as a Professional, and i believe would have been named along with the GREATS if he was able to fight without restriction.

I believe Amateur status doesnt necessarily mean you will succeed as a professional, but to completely disregard the extremely talented amateur fighters skill, and act as if a resume like Donaires outweights Rigo's proven skill as a boxer in the amateurs is pure ignorance.

With this in mind, I can't see how anyone can argue that Donaire is a better boxer than Rigo.

I listed some of the BIGGEST names in Boxing, all of whom had excellent Amateur records and skill. Though this is not ultimate proof, and there are several fighters who won Gold (though not even on the same level of Rigos skill), who failed as a Pro [Nate Brooks, Steve McCroy, Ricardo Delgado, Andrew Maynard, etc], But there are only a handful of amazing fighters who havent been solid in the amateurs. I believe this list is just additional evidence that Amateur skill should not be tossed aside.






With that in mind, Donaire's ONLY chance is to spend 12 rounds trying to land that left hook. But i feel as if Rigo can hurt Donaire (which he is capable of), work that body, by the time that Left hook does find a home, Donaire will be to worn down for it to have any serious effect.


The odds on this fight are ridiculous, and reminds me of Peterson/Khan. [Bet $30.00 on Peterson to win $300]. Only Donaire nut huggers, and casual fight fans think those odds are accurate representations of the fighters.


CULT OF RIGO

Agreed! Probably the Greatest Amateur Boxer of all time!!!

Unfortunately he's in the Pro ranks now where you need to keep standing for 12 rds Without that chin Protector!! Remember not all Gold Medalist become a successful PROs!

[Nekronicle]

So you're proud of the fact that you're in a cult worshiping a fighter and you have the nerve to call other boxing fans nuthuggers?

Anyway let me address your post :


Amateur status should be considered when assessing a fighter's ability but you need to keep in mind that pro boxing is different, many gold medalists got tore up in the pros.

yeah, i listed a few fighters who got gold and failed in the pros.....but the majority of super stars in boxing..like the ones i listed,...did have excellent amateur careers.

1. It's not just one left hook, he got dazed by two left hooks in that fight and in a previous fight he was dropped by a jab. Add up all these events and you'll understand why people say he's chinny.

2. Dropping and dominating your opponent doesn't say anything about YOUR chin lol.

dude, this is a problem with boxing in general. If a fighter isnt 100% superhero style..they're 'chinny'..or if they have a loss they're terrible fighters... get real dude.

Yes Donaire's professional resume outweighs Rigo's amateur accomplishments when you try to rate them as pro boxers.



You act as if Donaire is not good at landing that left but that's what he does best, he can set it up in many different ways and he can turn it into an uppercut. If Rigo tries to land straight lefts to the body with his right hand low, he'll make Donaire's job easier.

Rigo is the better boxer, he has more experience and skiill to take away that left hook than Donaire has the ability to land it. Where Rigo got tagged with a left hook, it was agaisnt fighters who arent known specifically to use that...Rigo is going into this fight, knowing EXACTLY what to expect.

[Nekronicle]

i guess you can say the same about almost 3rd world countires ..atleast with cuba , it's almost close enough to swim...hell , all 3rd world counties got it worst...

what? no you cant say that about 3rd world countries.

[Nekronicle]

Agreed! Probably the Greatest Amateur Boxer of all time!!!

Unfortunately he's in the Pro ranks now where you need to keep standing for 12 rds Without that chin Protector!! Remember not all Gold Medalist become a successful PROs!

i literally explicitly stated that , with examples..... but the point of my list was showing that virtually every superstar had a decorated amateur career.

[CubanGuyNYC]

dude, this is a problem with boxing in general. If a fighter isnt 100% superhero style..they're 'chinny'..or if they have a loss they're terrible fighters... get real dude.

I agree with this. The moment someone doesn't appear to be prime Ali, Leonard, Hearns, Tyson, you name it, he's a "bum." lol In Rigo's case, he's "chinny" because he literally touched the canvass after a right jab, and he got rocked by a couple of good hooks.

[Pacdbest]

i literally explicitly stated that , with examples..... but the point of my list was showing that virtually every superstar had a decorated amateur career.

Sorry I don't really waste time to read it all!! I gave u that, Cuba has a great Amateur Boxing!! But Pros?? It's not really ur territory!

[puga]

what? no you cant say that about 3rd world countries.

ofcourse you can ...to say that the reason why cuban boxing is not as successful becuase of oppression is all BS to me ... hell , i think there are more cuban fighters in the US than let's say argnetinians...or far away countries like that..

[Nekronicle]

Sorry I don't really waste time to read it all!! I gave u that, Cuba has a great Amateur Boxing!! But Pros?? It's not really ur territory!

Wonder what you're opinion will be this year when Headgear is gone, and scoring is different.....

ofcourse you can ...to say that the reason why cuban boxing is not as successful becuase of oppression is all BS to me ... hell , i think there are more cuban fighters in the US than let's say argnetinians...or far away countries like that..

Dude.... Cuba's entire government is centeralized around opression and keeping there citizens there..and can be threatened wiht their life or imprisonment. This is a blessing and a curse, because it does produce EXCELLENT athletes in both baseball and boxing, by dedicating government resources to there extensive training. However, the fact that the reason they invest so much into there atheletes is to promote the socialist ideals of Cuba itself. They're used as representations of the country.

Other countries, dont explictily forbid fighters from turning pro at all...they aren threatened by the government.

there is a DISTINCT difference between Cuba and other countries.
Most cuban fighters leave there entire lives behind, to try there had at the Pros.

[puga]

Wonder what you're opinion will be this year when Headgear is gone, and scoring is different.....



Dude.... Cuba's entire government is centeralized around opression and keeping there citizens there..and can be threatened wiht their life or imprisonment. This is a blessing and a curse, because it does produce EXCELLENT athletes in both baseball and boxing, by dedicating government resources to there extensive training. However, the fact that the reason they invest so much into there atheletes is to promote the socialist ideals of Cuba itself. They're used as representations of the country.

Other countries, dont explictily forbid fighters from turning pro at all...they aren threatened by the government. there is a DISTINCT difference between Cuba and other countries.
Most cuban fighters leave there entire lives behind, to try there had at tis prolly the only second onhe Pros.

other countries expet the US dont have a fighter that has the luxury to fight on espn with a 0-0 record in the pro as rigo has .... **** , shou shiming is prolly the only second one...

[Pacdbest]

Wonder what you're opinion will be this year when Headgear is gone, and scoring is different.....



Dude.... Cuba's entire government is centeralized around opression and keeping there citizens there..and can be threatened wiht their life or imprisonment. This is a blessing and a curse, because it does produce EXCELLENT athletes in both baseball and boxing, by dedicating government resources to there extensive training. However, the fact that the reason they invest so much into there atheletes is to promote the socialist ideals of Cuba itself. They're used as representations of the country.

Other countries, dont explictily forbid fighters from turning pro at all...they aren threatened by the government.

there is a DISTINCT difference between Cuba and other countries.
Most cuban fighters leave there entire lives behind, to try there had at the Pros.

I like it olds school & bring back Knockouts in the Amateur!

Philippines don't have a Great amateur program. Our Fighters turned Pro early & have even have to faked their birth certificate to turn Pro Like Pacquiao. That's why Pinoy fighters are real warriors!! They fight to survive!! No Ducking like that American fighter!