The Cult of Rigo v. RIGOWAR

[Nekronicle]

The #1 Argument i've read here and elsewhere in defense of Donaire , is that Rigo has not 'proven' himself and his professional resume is lacking..and his amateur skill should not be taken into account, in addition to Rigo being "chinny".... To act as if amateur status should not be considered when rating a fighter is pure ignorance to begin with. In regards to chinny...basing this off a single counter left hook where his legs were a little shaken, and then to turn around and KD a guy who's never hit the canvas, and dominate every single round thereafter ..is the ******est crap ive ever heard in my life.

Now, Rigondeaux is the FIRST Cuban to win Two gold medals AND turn pro...There is only one other, László Papp, who won THREE gold medals in the Olympics, and was able to Turn pro, and the only thing stopping him was a Communist regime. He was undefeated as a Professional, and i believe would have been named along with the GREATS if he was able to fight without restriction.

I believe Amateur status doesnt necessarily mean you will succeed as a professional, but to completely disregard the extremely talented amateur fighters skill, and act as if a resume like Donaires outweights Rigo's proven skill as a boxer in the amateurs is pure ignorance.

With this in mind, I can't see how anyone can argue that Donaire is a better boxer than Rigo.

I listed some of the BIGGEST names in Boxing, all of whom had excellent Amateur records and skill. Though this is not ultimate proof, and there are several fighters who won Gold (though not even on the same level of Rigos skill), who failed as a Pro [Nate Brooks, Steve McCroy, Ricardo Delgado, Andrew Maynard, etc], But there are only a handful of amazing fighters who havent been solid in the amateurs. I believe this list is just additional evidence that Amateur skill should not be tossed aside.

Frankie Genaro - 1920 - Olympic Flyweight Gold - Turned pro - Won American Flyweight Titleand beat notible victories over Pancho Villa, Charley Rosenberg - Hall of Famer - 96 Victories (19 KO) - 26 Losses - 8 draws - 4 no Decisions

Fidel LaBarbara - 1924 - Olympic Flyweight Gold - Turned pro - Won American Flyweight title defeating Frankie Genarao - Notible victor of Kid Chocolate - 72 Victories (15 KO) - 15 Losses - 7 Draws

Terry Spinks - 1956 - Olympic Flyweight Gold - Turned Pro - Won British Featherweight Title - Record 45 Victories (13 KO) - 3 Losses - 1 Draw

Leo Randolph - 1976 - Olympic Flyweight Gold - Turned Pro - Won WBA Super Bantamweight Title defeating Ricardo Cardona - Lost next fight and retired

Yuriorkis Gamboa - 2004 Olympic Flyweight Gold - Tunred Pro --Friggin Gamboa...


Kennedy McKinney - 1988 Bantamweight Gold - Turned Pro - Won IBF Super Bantamweight Championship - 36 Victories (19KO) 6 Losses 1 Draw

Joel Casamayor - 1996 Bantamweight Gold [Among other accolades] - Turned Pro - Ya'll know Casamayor

Guillermo Rigondeaux - 2000 AND 2004 Bantamweight Gold - Turned Pro - To disregard his amateur skill is a travesty.



Ronnie Harris - 1968 Lightweight Gold - Turned Pro - Undefeated for 7 years, 35 Victories (14 KO) Lost 2

Pernell Whitaker - 1984 Lightweight Gold - Turned Pro - Ya'll know Sweet Pea

Oscar De La Hoya - 1992 Lightweight Gold - Turned Pro - Ya'll know ODLH



Sugar Ray Seales - 1972 Light Welterweight Gold - Turned Pro - Though he didnt fair well as a pro, he was a top Contender at the time..drawing with Hagler

Sugar Ray Leonard - 1976 Light Welterweight Gold - Turned Pro - Ya'll know Sugar Ray Leonard


Floyd Patterson - 1952 Middlweight Gold - Turned Pro - Ya'll know Floyd Patterson

Michael Spinks - 1976 Middleweight Gold - Turned Pro - Ya'll know Michael Spinks



Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali) - 1960 Light Heavyweight Gold - .......

Leon Spinks - 1976 Light Heavyweight Gold - Turned Pro - Ya'll know Leon Spinks

Andre Ward - 2004 Light Heavyweight Gold - Turned Pro - Ya'll know SOG


Joe Frazier - 1964 Heavyweight Gold - Turned Pro - FRAIZER

George Foreman - 1968 Heavyweight Gold - Turned Pro - The Heywood Giant

Ray Mercer - 1988 Heavyweight Gold - Turned Pro - Merciless

With that in mind, Donaire's ONLY chance is to spend 12 rounds trying to land that left hook. But i feel as if Rigo can hurt Donaire (which he is capable of), work that body, by the time that Left hook does find a home, Donaire will be to worn down for it to have any serious effect.


The odds on this fight are ridiculous, and reminds me of Peterson/Khan. [Bet $30.00 on Peterson to win $300]. Only Donaire nut huggers, and casual fight fans think those odds are accurate representations of the fighters.


CULT OF RIGO

[Nekronicle]

Where the Donaire nuthuggers at?!

[Nekronicle]

also,




Look at that flab on Donaire... he's going to be in some serious pain when Rigo lands a brutal body shot.

[CubanGuyNYC]

With that in mind, Donaire's ONLY chance is to spend 12 rounds trying to land that left hook. But i feel as if Rigo can hurt Donaire (which he is capable of), work that body, by the time that Left hook does find a home, Donaire will be to worn down for it to have any serious effect.

The odds on this fight are ridiculous, and reminds me of Peterson/Khan. [Bet $30.00 on Peterson to win $300]. Only Donaire nut huggers, and casual fight fans think those odds are accurate representations of the fighters.

Wow...serious post. I'll stick to the last couple of paragraphs.

You're not the only one who believes Donaire will be swinging for the fences. I've said so myself. And, like you, I believe Rigo will have a shot at a wide-open Nonito. Guille doesn't have that highlight reel power of Donaire's, but if he lands one flush shot, he has the power to stun and the speed to finish the job in a flurry of bombs.

As a few have pointed out, the odds opened very high, but are coming down and will continue to come down as the fight nears. I consider Donaire the slight favorite, but if the odds are good enough, one should make a wager on Rigo. I don't care what anyone says, this fight is a virtual toss-up. If you can get good odds on Guillermo, it's a nice risk to take.

[puga]

had rigo accomplsihed near as much as ray leonard , swetpea, hoya, etc maybe i would give him a better chance...meaning those examples are worthless...

[*ANGRY CUBAN*]

I m one of the founders of the CULT OF RIGO...I just love to watch him fight...

[Nekronicle]

had rigo accomplsihed near as much as ray leonard , swetpea, hoya, etc maybe i would give him a better chance...meaning those examples are worthless...

None of those fighters had an entire country preventing him from succeeding in the pros..none of them had to escape oppression either.

[Nekronicle]

I m one of the founders of the CULT OF RIGO...I just love to watch him fight...

yes!

[Light_Speed]

So you're proud of the fact that you're in a cult worshiping a fighter and you have the nerve to call other boxing fans nuthuggers?

Anyway let me address your post :

The #1 Argument i've read here and elsewhere in defense of Donaire , is that Rigo has not 'proven' himself and his professional resume is lacking..and his amateur skill should not be taken into account, in addition to Rigo being "chinny".... To act as if amateur status should not be considered when rating a fighter is pure ignorance to begin with.

Amateur status should be considered when assessing a fighter's ability but you need to keep in mind that pro boxing is different, many gold medalists got tore up in the pros.

In regards to chinny...basing this off a single counter left hook where his legs were a little shaken, and then to turn around and KD a guy who's never hit the canvas, and dominate every single round thereafter ..is the ******est crap ive ever heard in my life.

1. It's not just one left hook, he got dazed by two left hooks in that fight and in a previous fight he was dropped by a jab. Add up all these events and you'll understand why people say he's chinny.

2. Dropping and dominating your opponent doesn't say anything about YOUR chin lol.

I believe Amateur status doesnt necessarily mean you will succeed as a professional, but to completely disregard the extremely talented amateur fighters skill, and act as if a resume like Donaires outweights Rigo's proven skill as a boxer in the amateurs is pure ignorance.

Yes Donaire's professional resume outweighs Rigo's amateur accomplishments when you try to rate them as pro boxers.

With that in mind, Donaire's ONLY chance is to spend 12 rounds trying to land that left hook. But i feel as if Rigo can hurt Donaire (which he is capable of), work that body, by the time that Left hook does find a home, Donaire will be to worn down for it to have any serious effect.

You act as if Donaire is not good at landing that left but that's what he does best, he can set it up in many different ways and he can turn it into an uppercut. If Rigo tries to land straight lefts to the body with his right hand low, he'll make Donaire's job easier.

[puga]

None of those fighters had an entire country preventing him from succeeding in the pros..none of them had to escape oppression either.

i guess you can say the same about almost 3rd world countires ..atleast with cuba , it's almost close enough to swim...hell , all 3rd world counties got it worst...