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  • elveiel
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    #21
    Originally posted by Black Jesus
    the fact is, european fighters have an inferior, robotic, no head movement whatsoever style that hampers them when they come to fight over here. Im personally impressed with VERY FEW european fighters, and it shows, the fact is, north america (mexico/puerto ricco etc included) has the best fighters, hands down. And the styles generally used by americans/latinos are usually quicker and simply more effective than those trained by european fighters generally speaking.

    Pretty much you take a european fighter out of europe his chances of success are very very slim. But i do like a few, i do like ricky hatton, and i do like felix sturm, and a few others whom i cant remember, but the rankings and the styles show me, that european fighters in general just dont have the style to win here.

    You cant say we need to tone our ego down, when our continent contains damn near all the champions, and the frankly, the best damn fighters period.
    Maybe you have watched a couple to many German fights!! I see no difference between UK and American fighters, the syles are very similar.

    I see you have the attitude too! best damn fighters period!



    Look for yourself ^ its a equal mix of champions from everywhere in the world.

    Not all American have the same ego but u do!
    Last edited by elveiel; 10-04-2004, 02:23 PM.

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    • Sir_Jose
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      #22
      Hatton does have talent and he does fight in an entertaining style, but until he is willing to come over here he will continue to get disrepected by American fight fans. Fact is he has done nothing to deserve respect in the boxing world. Hatton has been living off Sharmba leftovers Tackie, Phillips and now Stewart in the last two years.

      Same as Joe Calzaghe, he needs to come here and prove himself.

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      • El Jesus
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        #23
        Originally posted by elveiel
        Maybe you have watched a couple to many German fights!! I see no diffence between UK and American fighters, the syles are very similar.

        the fact that fighters from the americas dominate the rankings for the most part should speak for itself. as many european fighters there are, how many of them have been or are regarded as legends in comparison to north american born fighters (like i said, including mexico/puerto rico etc)

        If the style is that similar, why is it so ineffective when they actually have to fight over here?

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          #24
          Originally posted by jose
          Hatton does have talent and he does fight in an entertaining style, but until he is willing to come over here he will continue to get disrepected by American fight fans. Fact is he has done nothing to deserve respect in the boxing world. Hatton has been living off Sharmba leftovers Tackie, Phillips and now Stewart in the last two years.

          Same as Joe Calzaghe, he needs to come here and prove himself.
          Calzaghe has proved himself the best fighter at his weight, would beating up Lacy prove anything? Lacy himself knows Calzaghe is the number 1, he also knows he will have the travel for a shot at him.

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          • Sir_Jose
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            #25
            a win over Lacy would be BY FAR the best win of Calzaghe's career, but dont expect Calzaghe to fight anyone with a pulse anytime soon.

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              #26
              Originally posted by jose
              a win over Lacy would be BY FAR the best win of Calzaghe's career, but dont expect Calzaghe to fight anyone with a pulse anytime soon.
              Eubank, Reid, Mitchell and Woodhall were all bigger fights than Lacy. If i could be bothered to check i'm sure there would be a lot more fights that are bigger than Lacy!! Who is Lacy? Who's he beat? Vanderpool was a good win but Green is a much bigger threat to Calzaghe.

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                #27
                Originally posted by elveiel
                Eubank, Reid, Mitchell and Woodhall were all bigger fights than Lacy. If i could be bothered to check i'm sure there would be a lot more fights that are bigger than Lacy!! Who is Lacy? Who's he beat? Vanderpool was a good win but Green is a much bigger threat to Calzaghe.
                Eubank was washed up when he fought Calzaghe. By the time he fought Joe, he was a 12-year pro would would never win another fight.

                Calzaghe didn't beat Mitchell. The ref did.

                Reid was coming off of a loss to a guy with 10 losses 2 fights before.

                What's also interesting is that Mitchell and Woodhall fought Calzaghe as their last pro fight. Like they knew they were done, but they knew they could take one more payday.

                So who is Jeff Lacy? He's Calzaghe's daddy if the two ever meet in the ring. He's the guy with the real belt. He's the guy willing to fight Calzaghe in Calzaghe's yard because Joe won't leave it. He's the future of the division, that's who.

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                • pinkpanther
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                  #28
                  He willing to fight Calzaghe in his own yard.....great, is that not a stipulation of the champion?! I should think he is... he gets a shot at the belt and the number 1 in the division, if Lacy wins then the same rule will apply.

                  Don't start the Harris Hatton argument as its totally diferent!

                  In regard to your comments about European fighters and lack of head movement, in part I would tend to agree, however I not talking about European fighters in general I talking about British fighters, in this instance Hatton. I think you will actally find when a comparision is drawn, that taking into acount the size of the comparative countries and fighters in each i.e UK and the US, then the UK holds its own very nicely.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by neils7147933
                    Eubank was washed up when he fought Calzaghe. By the time he fought Joe, he was a 12-year pro would would never win another fight.

                    Calzaghe didn't beat Mitchell. The ref did.

                    Reid was coming off of a loss to a guy with 10 losses 2 fights before.

                    What's also interesting is that Mitchell and Woodhall fought Calzaghe as their last pro fight. Like they knew they were done, but they knew they could take one more payday.

                    So who is Jeff Lacy? He's Calzaghe's daddy if the two ever meet in the ring. He's the guy with the real belt. He's the guy willing to fight Calzaghe in Calzaghe's yard because Joe won't leave it. He's the future of the division, that's who.
                    Hopefuly we will find out who's the daddy very soon!! Its seems like Tarver and Johnson dont want to risk the Calzaghe fight so Frank Warren is speaking to Lacys people about the fight.

                    Lacy has shown Calzaghe a lot of respect in the past and he's now at the stage where he should get a shot at the divisions number 1 fighter.

                    I hope lacy wasnt calling Joe out because he knew he was going to move to light heavy, lets hope the fight happens.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by elveiel
                      Hopefuly we will find out who's the daddy very soon!! Its seems like Tarver and Johnson dont want to risk the Calzaghe fight so Frank Warren is speaking to Lacys people about the fight.

                      Lacy has shown Calzaghe a lot of respect in the past and he's now at the stage where he should get a shot at the divisions number 1 fighter.

                      I hope lacy wasnt calling Joe out because he knew he was going to move to light heavy, lets hope the fight happens.
                      I think Lacy knows if he doesn't get Calzaghe that before long people will say the same thing about him. They'll say, yeah he's held the belt a while, but who's he fought? This way the winner gets credit for beating a name fighter, and the loser still gets acquitted because they lost to someone credible.

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