Hatton takes out Stewart in style.

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  • neils7147933
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    #11
    Ricky looks good. He destroyed Dennis Pederson the last time I saw him. I think he could give Mitchell some trouble because he's ruthless to the body. It's just a shame he won't fight anybody. I like watching him fight, and I think he could beat some names in the division.

    Is he ready to get in the ring with Mayweather or Tszyu or Mitchell? I wish fights with a James Leija or a Kelson Pinto (who pulled out of a Hatton fight) or a Vivian Harris would help give us some idea. And now that he's Miguel Cotto's mandatory, they're acting like they don't want him. They (he & Warren) say they are looking to fight the winner of Tszyu-Mitchell 2.

    Well, first of all, I think Mitchell wins the Tszyu fight and sets up a third fight. Plus, these guys will see more money fighting a Spadafora or a Mayweather, or even jumping up to fight Spinks.

    If you're Ricky: You can't go from rookie ball to the major leagues, even if you're batting over .300. He beat Ben Tackie. He scheduled Kelson Pinto and the fight never happened. Those are the only 2 "names" Ricky Hatton has scheduled/fought. He KO'd the guy that took Mitchell the distance, but Mitchell destroyed Stewart, so why go after his leftovers?

    Hatton needs to throw some money at a guy ranked 6-15 and fight him in Manchester. Vivian Harris or James Leija (who might fight Gatti next) or someone in that league won't main-event in the US for money that a fight in Manchester would bring. He wouldn't even have to leave his backyard. If he wins that fight, then maybe a champ gives him a look. Otherwise, he is doing damage to his reputation that will be hard to undo.

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    • elveiel
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      #12
      Originally posted by Dr_Cynical
      lol As long as Cotto punches Warren as well, I'm a happy fight viewer.
      Maybe you should watch Hatton before you start putting him down.

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      • techn9ne
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        #13
        hatton is better than the bigots give him credit for!

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          #14
          Originally posted by techn9ne
          hatton is better than the bigots give him credit for!
          I'm really glad someone agree's!! If Hatton ruled the divison until he retired they would still call him a bum!

          I thought people would give him a little more credit for handing Stewart one of the most one sided beating i have seen in a long time!

          Mitchell put Stewart down a couple of times but it wasnt one sided and it wasnt a brutal beat down like Hatton gave him.

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          • El Jesus
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            #15
            Originally posted by techn9ne
            hatton is better than the bigots give him credit for!

            i think he looks good against the guys he fights, i dont think hes a bum, and i dont think hes anything special, all my judgements are off on him until i see him get in the ring with a top ranked fighter. but i agree that it seems foolish to just write him off just because of where he hails.

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            • J !
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              Gents, really need to get some perspective, Hatton should step up agreed, but that DOES NOT make him a bum or a poor fighter.

              HE IS WORLD CLASS. And hopefully will get the chance to shut some of you naysayers up in the near future.


              he just took apart a man in 5 rounds that took mitchell 12 and gave mitchell some uncomfortable moments, I know I was there, ringside.


              Equally so Cotto looks the business but for ****s sake will you lot get a grip here, yes he looks fantastic but he is not the finished article yet, admittedly he has come along much faster than Ricky and looks to be developing into a world class performer but he has been feasting on Lightweights and fringe top ten opponents in the same way Hatton has (for tackie read Ndou), but everyone is praising him as the third coming of Sugar ray ?

              Perspective guys, personally I think Hatton would give Cotto a decent fight, we havent seen Miguel fight under pressure, we havent seen him properly backed up apart from when Ndou
              got at him in the middle rounds. And he didnt like it at all. There was also an uppercut that Sosa landed flush in their fight that if it had been Kostya or Gatti, Cotto wouldnt have been eating for a month let alone seeing the end of the round so please keep some of this ridiculous bull**** about Cotto being the complete article under wraps and stop buying all the hype and let him develop.

              Would mayweather beat Cotto, yes in his sleep at present, would he beat him in two years, well thats a completely different proposition.


              Im not predicting a winner but to say Cotto would blast ricky out of there early in a one sided beat down is just bull**** and ignorant.

              We are talking bout the top young guns here ut would be a top good competetive fight, hatton should go after Mitcehll though assuming he beats Kostya. Mitchell is a nice boxer but I do think he leaves himself open to the body too much, Hatton's forte.


              solid world class performance by hatton on friday as was Miguels against Pinto a few weeks back. Credit to both fighters.
              Last edited by J !; 10-04-2004, 07:00 AM.

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              • pinkpanther
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                Good god, I'm so sick of hearing all you Yanks winging about Hatton on and on and on.... bla bla bla, How does it go again Hatton would get whipped by Mitchell etc, all of you convinced that the Peurto Rican Cotto is the next coming of jesus christ ....

                Look at the facts Stewart, who by no means is in the class of anyone in the top 10 in the division granted, fought Mitchell over 12 rounds of a fight that to be fair... was crap, Mitchell clearly the more talented fighter bobed and danced in and out, stayed away from trouble, other than when No Joke taged him in the 5th and rocked him I might add, and bored his way to an uninspiring decision (Trust me I was there) Why I might ask, well:

                Could it be that he wanted to go the distance keep himself clear of any danger and box the rounds because he needed the work? er...doubt it.

                Could it be that he came out early and flashed some big combos and tagged Stewart several times early doors but then ran out of steam? er doubt it - he claimed to be in the shape of his life

                or could it be that he just didn't have the power to hurt Stewart and couldn't get the job done inside 12..... er probably


                Hatton went through Stewart like a freight train, I see that Stewart has since said that he has never taken a beating like that in his career...hmmm

                Yet I still hear all you Yankee boys whine ....he only fights in his own backyard, so would you if you had the carisma to sell out the MEN twice over and reap the rewards.

                But he's never beaten anyone.... er well actually he has - Ben Tackie, Vince Phillips and he's only young. Interestingly Cotto has only beaten Ledeja and Pinto of note (the later of which bottled his fight with Hatton and has since admitted that he felt Cotto prior to the fight, was an easier prospect for him having beaten him as an amateur)

                But he should fight Cotto and prove himself..... er why?, he's going to fight the winner of Tyszu/Mitchell for the belt, a fight with Cotto makes no sence on either side. The two best young prospects alongside Mayweather in the division, hardly going to fight right now are they.

                On the Tyszu Mitchell fight, god I really want Mitchell to win so that Hatton can have a pop at him. Not because I have anything against Mitchell but to shut all you little yankee doodles up once and for all. Alas in this will probably never happen because Tyszu will beat Mitchell again, and for fun this time if he's got his game head on.

                I'm not sugesting that Hatton is the best in the Division I'm simply sticking up for a fellow Brit in the face of a ******* of shall we call it american 'patriotism'....my arse

                Best in the Division: Mayweather, Tyszu, Hatton, Cotto ....bit of a gap Mitchell, Gatti, Harris..... large gap Ladeja, Pinto, Spara

                I can just see all you Americans jumping up and down right now crying blue murder ...... brilliant!

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                • J !
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                  #18
                  I agree to an extent but I dont think you are right to aim all this at our american friends here, theres been plenty of british giving hatton just as much ****.

                  nationality in this instance I dont think comes into it, I mean cotto isnt an American fighter so why would they praise him to the detriment of hatton?


                  The frustration has come in the length of time and amount of failed fights but hopefully this is to be rectified.

                  keeping my fingers crossed I fancy a boys night out at the MEN for a proper world title.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JPW
                    I agree to an extent but I dont think you are right to aim all this at our american friends here, theres been plenty of british giving hatton just as much ****.

                    nationality in this instance I dont think comes into it, I mean cotto isnt an American fighter so why would they praise him to the detriment of hatton?


                    The frustration has come in the length of time and amount of failed fights but hopefully this is to be rectified.

                    keeping my fingers crossed I fancy a boys night out at the MEN for a proper world title.
                    I agree with pinkpanther, he's hit the nail on the head!!

                    Some Americans only rate fighters who come to them, if Cotto was fighting in germany they would say he's beating up bums and is overated!

                    As a whole i like American fight fans but there are some who need to tone their ego down and show a little respect!!

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                    • El Jesus
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by elveiel
                      I agree with pinkpanther, he's hit the nail on the head!!

                      Some Americans only rate fighters who come to them, if Cotto was fighting in germany they would say he's beating up bums and is overated!

                      As a whole i like American fight fans but there are some who need to tone their ego down and show a little respect!!

                      the fact is, european fighters have an inferior, robotic, no head movement whatsoever style that hampers them when they come to fight over here. Im personally impressed with VERY FEW european fighters, and it shows, the fact is, north america (mexico/puerto ricco etc included) has the best fighters, hands down. And the styles generally used by americans/latinos are usually quicker and simply more effective than those trained by european fighters generally speaking.

                      Pretty much you take a european fighter out of europe his chances of success are very very slim. But i do like a few, i do like ricky hatton, and i do like felix sturm, and a few others whom i cant remember, but the rankings and the styles show me, that european fighters in general just dont have the style to win here.

                      You cant say we need to tone our ego down, when our continent contains damn near all the champions, and the frankly, the best damn fighters period.
                      Last edited by El Jesus; 10-04-2004, 02:01 PM.

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