great news for amateur boxing 10 point must no head gear.

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  • Shadow boxer 3
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    #11
    Originally posted by ИATAS
    Insert any name prior to the 1984 Olympics.
    point i was trying to make is just cause past greats and other fighters did it doesn't make it safe. but it was clarified to me that it would only be the elite level amateurs so im fine with it

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      #12
      That's a good point. People think that Olympic boxing has always used headgear but that only started in 1984.

      If anything this is going back to the original way they had it. I wonder if the change will improve the USA's gold medal chances?

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        #13
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        That's a good point. People think that Olympic boxing has always used headgear but that only started in 1984.

        If anything this is going back to the original way they had it. I wonder if the change will improve the USA's gold medal chances?
        It will improving boxing as a whole greatly. Now days amatuer boxing is like playing tag. It's not even really boxing anymore it's basically it's own sport. Touch your opponent a few times and maintain a lead. That does not help fighters become pro's and it's clear, we see a lot of young guys with no power, they don't know how to throw proper power punches, they lack inside fighting, etc.

        This is great for the sport of boxing.

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          #14
          Good. You can see the impact of the amateur scoring system in fighters like Khan and Alexander. Two great athletes that have had numerous bad habits from their amateur careers carry over into the pros.

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            #15
            Originally posted by JmH Reborn
            The science of the sport is just better today. Bigger fighters, stronger fighters, faster fighters

            Like I said, I'm all for an exciting am game, just hoping that it doesn't translate into a shorter pro game
            Fighters are not faster today, and outside of heavyweight where they're just fatter and have worse stamina they're not bigger and faster. Amateurs with headgear just give a bigger target to hit.

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              #16
              Originally posted by ИATAS
              It will improving boxing as a whole greatly. Now days amatuer boxing is like playing tag. It's not even really boxing anymore it's basically it's own sport. Touch your opponent a few times and maintain a lead. That does not help fighters become pro's and it's clear, we see a lot of young guys with no power, they don't know how to throw proper power punches, they lack inside fighting, etc.

              This is great for the sport of boxing.
              The opposite is true for the majority of top amateurs. What you're claiming is bandwagon hyperbole preached by jokes like Teddy Atlas.

              10 point system is much better but i don't think no headgear is a good idea due to tournament formats. Fighting 4,5,6 times in less than two weeks means that cuts and swelling are very likely and winners won't be able to continue due to injures.
              Last edited by Mikhnienko; 02-09-2013, 01:11 PM.

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              • ИATAS
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                #17
                Originally posted by Mikhnienko
                The opposite is true for the majority of top amateurs. What you're claiming is bandwagon hyperbole preached by jokes like Teddy Atlas.
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                Explain. You don't think the current system is like a game of tag? I don't see how this helps anyone for the pros. It promotes fighters to pitty pat punch and move away.

                I don't personally care about cuts and injuries in amateur tournaments I'm more concerned with the overall improvement of boxing as a whole.

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                  #18
                  ya i heard they were thinking about doin this. if its just the olympics i dont see the big deal they already do it in that semi pro league thing anyway

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by JmH Reborn
                    The science of the sport is just better today. Bigger fighters, stronger fighters, faster fighters

                    Like I said, I'm all for an exciting am game, just hoping that it doesn't translate into a shorter pro game
                    There are boxers that exist today that are faster and more powerful than Tommy Hearns & Aaron Pryor? (2 guys that fought in Leonards amateur era without using no headgear)

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                    • Mikhnienko
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ИATAS
                      Explain. You don't think the current system is like a game of tag? I don't see how this helps anyone for the pros. It promotes fighters to pitty pat punch and move away.

                      I don't personally care about cuts and injuries in amateur tournaments I'm more concerned with the overall improvement of boxing as a whole.
                      Yes and No. Like i said i strongly agree with changing to a 10 point must system as it rewards damage and encourages a more pro style. I disagree with those who claim that most amateurs fight in a point aquiring, fencing, pitty pat manner which is what i thought you were claiming.

                      Teddy Atlas likes claiming that nonsense and i could list the top 10 for each weightclass and you would find very few top amateurs who are pitty pat punchers and fencer types. No more than the pro game has.

                      I disagree with your last comment about injuries. A 10 point system with headgear still encourages those improvements, i don't want to watch the Olympics and have 1/4 of the weightclasses having replacement boxers in the medal round because winners have cuts and closed eyes.

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