Better resume Holmes or Wladimir

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  • dan_cov
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    #1

    Better resume Holmes or Wladimir

    Holmes fought the bigger names but a lot was green or at the tail end of their careers/semi retired, Wladimir fought the lesser guys/names overall but they was mainly prime IMO

    This isn't a Holmes bashing thread or ''Wlad is the GOAT'' or vice versa just wondered who you reckon seeing they've made a similar amount of title defenses, ruled for a around a decade etc

    Holmes key wins...

    56-6-1 Shavers
    40-4-0 Norton
    23-1-2 Evangelista
    24-0-1 Leroy Jones
    56-3 Ali
    18-1 Berbick
    10-2-2 Spinks
    22-0 Renaldo Snipes
    25-0 Cooney
    20-2 Tex Cobb
    15-0 Tim Witherspoon
    10-0 Marvis Frazier
    14-1 Bonecrusher Smith
    16-0 Carl Williams
    18-0 Ray Mercer

    Wladimir key wins

    23-1 Monte Barrett
    31-1 Chris Byrd
    34-4-1 Ray Mercer
    28-2-3 Jameel McCline
    24-0 Sam Peter
    39-2-1 Chris Byrd
    29-0 Calvin Brock
    33-3 Lamont Brewster
    24-3-4 Ray Austin
    22-0-1 Sultan Ibragimov
    31-1-0 Tony Thompson
    45-6-2 Hasim Rahman
    25-0-1 Ruslan Chagaev
    35-1-0 Eddie Chambers
    34-3-0 Sam Peter
    25-1-0 David Haye
    36-2-0 Tony Thompson
    27-0 Mariusz Wach
    87
    Holmes
    73.56%
    64
    Wladimir
    19.54%
    17
    Difficult to say its around even
    6.90%
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  • dan_cov
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    #2
    If I've missed any, let me know, I'll edit.

    Could you also say who you voted and maybe a reason why...
    Last edited by dan_cov; 02-07-2013, 03:53 PM.

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    • Simurgh
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      #3
      I would go with Holmes if he had beaten those HOF/ATG before they were shot. Also if he had less defeats.

      It's close, but I go with Wlad.

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      • D-MiZe
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        #4
        No competition... Holmes.

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        • "Smokin Sugar"
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          #5
          Originally posted by D-MiZe
          No competition... Holmes.
          Can you explain why??

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          • JAB5239
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            #6
            Originally posted by Simurgh
            I would go with Holmes if he had beaten those HOF/ATG before they were shot. Also if he had less defeats.

            It's close, but I go with Wlad.
            Norton wasn't shot a arguably fought his greatest fight against Holmes.

            Its pretty close but Norton and Witherspoon help Larry edge it.

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            • Godsfly
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              wooooooooooow

              holmes resume is light years away & I'm willing to debate anyone who disagrees (I'm no wlad hater ether)

              if you guys posed this question to a historical Boxing expert you'll get laughed at. (not even joking)
              Last edited by Godsfly; 02-07-2013, 05:25 PM.

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              • Daddy T
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                #8
                **** the haters the resumes are actually pretty close as it stands holmes still edges it but add wins over say, price + fury (at least one of which will probably go on to be some form of world champ) to wlad's list and he will pass him

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                • Simurgh
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by JAB5239
                  Norton wasn't shot a arguably fought his greatest fight against Holmes.

                  Its pretty close but Norton and Witherspoon help Larry edge it.
                  I am also taking into account Holmes lost 6 times, regardless he was older fighter when he retired.

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                  • Simurgh
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pigsfly
                    wooooooooooow

                    holmes resume is light years away & I'm willing to debate anyone who disagrees (I'm no wlad hater ether)

                    if you guys posed this question to a historical Boxing expert you'll get laughed at. (not even joking)
                    make your case. Let's hear it. 'light years' I am intrigued...

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