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  • bojangles1987
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    #151
    Originally posted by inITtoWINit
    Ok, I know you didn't actually say it, but you insinuated it. Explain to me how Floyd "dominates" Lara. That's the 1 fight at 154, besides Trout, Floyd doesn't even want, within a 500 feet radius.

    And no. Once you trim it down. Every boxer @ 147/154 is an option. He chooses who he wants to fight.
    I don't think there's a chance in hell he dominates Lara or Trout. But I said that because I know Burner's argument against those fights is that they bring no money and Mayweather would dominate them. I'm arguing that even if he thinks that, those are better fights than what Mayweather seems to be considering right now.

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      #152
      Originally posted by PAC-BOY
      :qqq: excellent point.
      People should be saying, "oh ****, it's Floyd Mayweather, can't be done!"

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        #153
        Originally posted by bojangles1987
        I don't think there's a chance in hell he dominates Lara or Trout. But I said that because I know Burner's argument against those fights is that they bring no money and Mayweather would dominate them. I'm arguing that even if he thinks that, those are better fights than what Mayweather seems to be considering right now.
        Ah, I gotcha ya. Sorry, a bit of miscommunication (how the hell do you spell this word!) on my part.

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          #154
          Originally posted by inITtoWINit
          Fair enough. That is a Floyd move, so what can you do?
          you can do several things- you can stop watching HBO since they have made it clear they will put on the highest ratings grabber rather than the most competitive fights.

          you can write to HBO and tell them the model they are using for floyd, manny, broner, martinez, donaire right now is bull*****.

          you have options.
          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 02-07-2013, 01:07 PM.

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            #155
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            you can do several things- you can stop watching HBO since they have made it clear they will put on the highest ratings grabber rather than the most competitive fights.

            you can write to HBO and tell them the model they are using for floyd, manny, broner, martinez, donaire right now.

            you have options.
            And then they tear up my letter, and count their money. HBO/SHOWTIME have the market cornered. At this point, you have to pray they don't **** us around.
            Last edited by Scarcaztic; 02-07-2013, 12:51 PM.

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              #156
              Guerrero is a cherrypick, Devon doesn't deserve it, Marquez was in the "best shape of his life" against Pacquiao and "Pacquiao fought the better version", but a May-Marquez rematch is out of the question, Pacquiao just got KTFO and fights with Soto and Rios are looking like super fights for him at this point of his career, so who's left?

              The only fighters left out there for Floyd to get credit are at 154-160. Canelo, Trout, Martinez. Again, high ass standards.

              Soto, Rios, Marquez[Lightweights and JWW's at 147].
              Canelo, Trout, Martinez[The best fighter 1-2 weight classes above him].

              Floyd "High Standard" Mayweather.

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                #157
                Originally posted by shade darkar
                thats the difference dunn, boxing fans shouldnt give a toss how much they are getting paid, how many bums are on seats. mayweather will be making millions regardless of who he fights.

                i just dont get boxing fans who stick up for certain guys who take the easier fights because they get more money, surely as a boxing fan, you would want to see the best fights!
                i'm only explaining the model. its not an acceptance of the model nor a justification. but, in general, I prefer that fighters get paid the maximum and not just the promoters. Perhaps as fans we should care where the bulk of our money goes?

                of course I want to see the best fights. as for sticking up for boxers, if thats what you think fine. Im simply saying what other 35/36 yr old boxer has taken challenge over money? None of them have, so why now is it such a problem?

                now as to your other post-you are essentially saying other than manny there is no ww floyd can fight. ok. so that goes back to my point about "competitive" or "good".

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  I don't think there's a chance in hell he dominates Lara or Trout. But I said that because I know Burner's argument against those fights is that they bring no money and Mayweather would dominate them. I'm arguing that even if he thinks that, those are better fights than what Mayweather seems to be considering right now.
                  Alexander himself doesnt bring any money. Thats actually not what I was going to say.

                  Basically he can only fight at 154 for people to be happy with his opponent choice. Sadly for that crowd hes not big enough to exclusively campaign at 154 hes just not.

                  Theres a reason his next fight is a WW. Hes a legit WW. He usually takes a fight at 154 if its for Big money. Cotto and Oscar. The only guy close to that level is Alvarez which is why we see rumors of them fighting.

                  If people think hes going to line up 3-4 back to back 154 Pound fights you are going disappointed. Like I mentioned hes not big enough to take that kind of pounding. Just like Pacquiao.

                  Lara and Trout all things equal aren't anywhere near Floyds level in talent or boxing ability. They're only considered threats because Floyd is past prime and 36 years old now. In his prime hed be laughed at for taking a Lara or Trout fight.

                  Im fine with Guerrero, Bradley, Marquez, Matthysse and Garcia.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Burner ©
                    Alexander himself doesnt bring any money. Thats actually not what I was going to say.

                    Basically he can only fight at 154 for people to be happy with his opponent choice. Sadly for that crowd hes not big enough to exclusively campaign at 154 hes just not.

                    Theres a reason his next fight is a WW. Hes a legit WW. He usually takes a fight at 154 if its for Big money. Cotto and Oscar. The only guy close to that level is Alvarez which is why we see rumors of them fighting.

                    If people think hes going to line up 3-4 back to back 154 Pound fights you are going disappointed. Like I mentioned hes not big enough to take that kind of pounding. Just like Pacquiao.

                    Lara and Trout all things equal are anywhere near Floyds level in talent or boxing ability. Theyre considered threats because Floyd is past prime and 36 years old now. In his prime hed be laughed at for taking a Lara or Trout fight.

                    Im fine with Guerrero, Bradley, Marquez, Matthysse and Garcia.
                    I'd be fine with Guerrero, Bradley, Marquez or Matthysse. Those are all decent to good fights. I know I'm not everyone, and there are those who wouldn't be satisfied with anything, but he doesn't have to fight at 154 to keep me from complaining.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by inITtoWINit
                      And then they tear up my letter, and count their money. HBO/SHOWTIME have the market cornered. At this point, you have to pray they don't **** us around.
                      ok. so then just watch FNF and shobox. there are options available. no one says you have to watch crap fights. but its clear HBO is putting profit/ratings ahead of competition.

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