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Did Vitali Klitschko "dominate" Lennox Lewis?

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  • #61
    It was obvious that prime Vitali was going for an early blitz and disregarded his own defence, and this caught old fat Lennox by suprise. The tactic failed since Vitali had no plan once he'd tired, and was consequently torn apart a few rounds later.

    But I dont blame Vitali for pressing for an early blitz, since he had no other chance of winning the fight, suprise and a lucky punch was his only chance against such a foe superior in every department even at retirement age.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by DreamFighter View Post
      It was obvious that prime Vitali was going for an early blitz and disregarded his own defence, and this caught old fat Lennox by suprise. The tactic failed since Vitali had no plan once he'd tired, and was consequently torn apart a few rounds later.

      But I dont blame Vitali for pressing for an early blitz, since he had no other chance of winning the fight, suprise and a lucky punch was his only chance against such a foe superior in every department even at retirement age.
      The bolded. Well said.

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      • #63
        I personally felt Vitali was the fresher of the two.

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        • #64
          To say his tactics was to knock out Lennox early is nonsense.
          He was aiming for decision or late stoppage. Here is his tactics.

          from 3:30



          I also think he was fresher fighter by the end of the fight.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Simurgh View Post
            To say his tactics was to knock out Lennox early is nonsense.
            He was aiming for decision or late stoppage. Here is his tactics.

            from 3:30



            I also think he was fresher fighter by the end of the fight.
            Well it didn't work. And I don't think he was fresher at all. Round six he did nothing but try to hold Lennox at every turn and ate right uppercuts for his trouble.

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            • #66
              dominating? no. winning? absolutely.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Simurgh View Post
                To say his tactics was to knock out Lennox early is nonsense.
                clearly his all offense, no defence tactic disagrees with you.

                If Vitali's actual behaviour disagrees with your opinion of his behaviour, then you should be ready to admit you are wrong.

                and Vitali the fresher fighter? He looked like something you find in a butchers shop, for Pete's sake.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by DreamFighter View Post
                  clearly his all offense, no defence tactic disagrees with you.

                  If Vitali's actual behaviour disagrees with your opinion of his behaviour, then you should be ready to admit you are wrong.

                  and Vitali the fresher fighter? He looked like something you find in a butchers shop, for Pete's sake.
                  Vitali's defense was always like that. To dodge the punches. He keeps his left hand very low (it's not by chance his left side was affected - all the cuts are on the left side)

                  Go and rewatch round 6 (Vitali's worst round) and count the punches both landed.

                  Also count the number of times Foreman and HBO commentators made the comments about how tired Lennox is...

                  Vitali was holding only when Lennox came inside as he didn't know how to properly defend himself from Lennox's brawling style. From the outside he was killing Lennox.

                  What the hell it matters how Vitali's skin looks like with who was the fresher fighter.

                  Don't reply before you rewatch the 6th round. And I note again that's Vitali's worst round. Then rewatch 2nd round... Vitali was winning... No doubt. He paid the prize for the bad defense and weak skin.

                  Not to take anything from Manny's brilliant tactics and Lennox's excellent execution.

                  Last edited by Simurgh; 01-16-2013, 12:03 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Simurgh View Post
                    Vitali's defense was always like that. To dodge the punches. He keeps his left hand very low (it's not by chance his left side was affected - all the cuts are on the left side)

                    Go and rewatch round 6 (Vitali's worst round) and count the punches both landed.

                    Also count the number of times Foreman and HBO commentators made the comments about how tired Lennox is...

                    Vitali was holding only when Lennox came inside as he didn't know how to properly defend himself from Lennox's brawling style. From the outside he was killing Lennox.

                    What the hell it matters how Vitali's skin looks like with who was the fresher fighter.

                    Don't reply before you rewatch the 6th round. And I note again that's Vitali's worst round. Then rewatch 2nd round... Vitali was winning... No doubt. He paid the prize for the bad defense and weak skin.

                    Not to take anything from Manny's brilliant tactics and Lennox's excellent execution.

                    if you dont defend well (as Vitali clearly didnt) against a wrecker like Lewis then you are going to lose the fight, period, its only a matter of time and punch accumulation. Your ONLY chance is to knock the other guy out before he hurts you. That was plainly Vitali's blitz tactic, and he had no other when it failed. So it follows that Vitali was trying desperately to stop Lewis via blitzkrieg. It didnt work, there was nothing he could do now that Lewis's punches were taking their toll - the rest is history.

                    In a rematch it would have gone a lot worse for Vitali since he would have lost that element of suprise. Lennox would systematically tear the guy apart, Vitali would be forced to start slower becasue blizkrieging would be ineffective, and would receive twice as bad a battering.
                    Last edited by DreamFighter; 01-16-2013, 12:18 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by DreamFighter View Post
                      if you dont defend well (as Vitali clearly didnt) against a wrecker like Lewis then you are going to lose the fight, period, its only a matter of time and punch accumulation. Your ONLY chance is to knock the other guy out before he hurts you. That was plainly Vitali's blitz tactic, and he had no other when it failed. So it follows that Vitali was trying desperately to stop Lewis via blitzkrieg. It didnt work, there was nothing he could do now that Lewis's punches were taking their toll - the rest is history.

                      In a rematch it would have gone a lot worse for Vitali since he would have lost that element of suprise. Lennox would systematically tear the guy apart, Vitali would be forced to start slower and would receive twice as bad a battering.
                      I couldn't disagree more.
                      Vitali was WINNING the fight by the time of stoppage. That just doesn't come together with you theory of 'blitzkrieg'. He was fighting exactly like every other fight prior to Lennox.

                      I can't see your point about punch accumulation when even in 6th round Vitali was landing more or same (at the worst). Lennox was getting more hit throughout the fight.

                      It's not Lennox who lacked the experience but Vitali. And I would strongly favor Vitali in the rematch.

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