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  • #61
    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
    And Garcia's is Khan.
    People will say I am being biased but I honestly believe Ajose is far better than Amir. Khan has fought at a higher level but anything he can do Ajose does better & he can match him in handspeed. His combinations are thrown with good technique too not ineffective flurries. He is better balanced, has better stamina, better conditioned, better footwork and conditioning. Hes better in every area especially on the inside.
    His chin is better than Amirs by something ridiculous.

    And yes if they fought I would pick Ajose to beat Amir.
    Easy to say that now ... I think you would've been in the minority prior to him getting ktfo you probably still are... Hard to say Ajose is better than khan he has never fought the competition khan has (not his fault)... Another way to look at it is I can see Mathysse losing a UD to khan it wouldn't be so far fetched he has no advantage over khan other than his chin and his power ... So did maidana

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    • #62
      Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
      And Garcia's is Khan.
      People will say I am being biased but I honestly believe Ajose is far better than Amir. Khan has fought at a higher level but anything he can do Ajose does better & he can match him in handspeed. His combinations are thrown with good technique too not ineffective flurries. He is better balanced, has better stamina, better conditioned, better footwork and conditioning. Hes better in every area especially on the inside.
      His chin is better than Amirs by something ridiculous.

      And yes if they fought I would pick Ajose to beat Amir.
      Exactly which win is better that's what me and the other dude were going on about.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by brickcityboxing View Post
        Movement: Mathysse ... Yea if your talking about moving forward in a straight line

        You're talking like its Brandon Rios in question.
        Lucas cuts a ring off as well as anybody in boxing right now. He has a high ring I.Q and there is no wasted movement I find with a lot of todays fighters there is a lot of unnecessary wasted movement & bouncing.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by brickcityboxing View Post
          Easy to say that now ... I think you would've been in the minority prior to him getting ktfo you probably still are... Hard to say Ajose is better than khan he has never fought the competition khan has (not his fault)... Another way to look at it is I can see Mathysse losing a UD to khan it wouldn't be so far fetched he has no advantage over khan other than his chin and his power ... So did maidana

          Have you seen Khan against pressure?
          Against Maidana, Peterson etc

          The last thing Khan needs right now is a relentless pressure fighter with K.O power in both hands that can cut a ring off.
          Khan does not like bodyshots at all.

          Lucas isn't flashy but what he does is effective. Khan would noway be able to keep Lucas off of him. I think Amir is completely made for Khan and it would be just like the Ajose fight except Khan is not anywhere near as durable.

          Pressure breaks pipes

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          • #65
            Originally posted by brickcityboxing View Post
            Exactly which win is better that's what me and the other dude were going on about.

            Khan is the better name but there is no doubt in my mind that Ajose is the better boxer/fighter.
            Khan was also coming off a grueling loss to Peterson.

            Ajose is the better win IMO

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            • #66
              Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
              Have you seen Khan against pressure?
              Against Maidana, Peterson etc

              The last thing Khan needs right now is a relentless pressure fighter with K.O power in both hands that can cut a ring off.
              Khan does not like bodyshots at all.

              Lucas isn't flashy but what he does is effective. Khan would noway be able to keep Lucas off of him. I think Amir is completely made for Khan and it would be just like the Ajose fight except Khan is not anywhere near as durable.

              Pressure breaks pipes
              The same could've been said about maidana I wouldn't favor khan against Mathysse but it wouldn't be a major upset In my eyes either ... Judah doesn't do well with pressure either and his chin is probably every bit as shaky as khans is ... He was able to squeak by Mathysse though feel me ?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by brickcityboxing View Post
                The same could've been said about maidana I wouldn't favor khan against Mathysse but it wouldn't be a major upset In my eyes either ... Judah doesn't do well with pressure either and his chin is probably every bit as shaky as khans is ... He was able to squeak by Mathysse though feel me ?

                Maidana is a plodder who does follow guys in straight lines & at the time he fought Amir he only really had that big right hand. Its not until hes moved to Garcia he has learned to jab & move his head etc
                From a technical standpoint he has improved a lot.

                I felt Lucas won that fight, I did a RBR but admittedly the rounds were that close they was very hard to score. Lucas did however land just about all the clean, hard effective punches. It was Lucas' first step on the big stage, he has improved immensely from back then where he was guilty of being a slow start & taking rounds off. Judah fought very defensively, it was boring but a good gameplan. Judah is an experienced southpaw, they have two totally different styles. I feel 9/10 times Amir will look good against a short defensive fighter.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by brickcityboxing View Post
                  Movement: Mathysse ... Yea if your talking about moving forward in a straight line
                  Let me guess, Matthysse has no D and Garcia's is better?

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                  • #69
                    you guys getting to complicated LMFAO.

                    Lucas hits harder and Danny face is weak.

                    Only hope he has is that left hook, but More then likely Lucas takes it easily, he took judah vicious uppercut like nothing, took ajose,

                    nothing danny has for lucas.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by jsfd26 View Post
                      Let me guess, Matthysse has no D and Garcia's is better?
                      Nope both of them aren't known for having great D ... I'm not riding for Danny that hard TBH I just wanna know where this Mathysse myth got started he is very limited in his own right ... His power is overrated too

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