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  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    Wlad has improved on his defense. He is now able to use his size advantage much more than previously. That plus the level of competition has not been stellar in the HW division. So Wlad has not been hit that much or hard enough for even china to break.

    That said, the few times that he did get hit recently, he didn't look too good.
    Not really sure how he improved his defense. He doesn't slip, block or parry punches any more than he use to. He just plus it say behind that brutal telephone pole like jab and than clinches. I give him an A for being smart enough to change his style and pretty much master it, but I just don't see where his defense improved.

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    • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
      Criteria should be how a fighter responds to being knocked down. Against Foreman, Frazier kept getting up looking to fight. I believe the ref said if he hadn't stopped it Frazier would have kept getting back up. As far as Louis...mostly flash knockdowns where he responded by coming on stronger and stopping his opponent. When Wlad has been hurt his body short circuits. He looks like a new born giraffe trying to get its feet. That to me is not the sign of a very good chin. More proof is the way he now fights. He has the size and skills to take any fighter out early but he plays it safe to protect his whiskers. Before Brewster and Sanders I loved watching Wlad. Now he won't exchange because he himself is unsure of his chin.
      I disagree, all contrary. Wlad was knock downed not just in the fights he lost. Look at peters fight. Didn't he get up 3 times looking to fight?! And he won convincingly.

      Apart from brewster fight, he always was pretty much steady on his legs when is up - no funny dancing.. In brewster fight, you can see it doesn't have nothing with his chin.

      The way wlad fights now is just smart. He doesn't need to take punishment to get guys out. I recently watched the first thompson fight. I find it very entertaining. You can also hear lennox giving wlad compliments.

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      • Originally posted by hweightblogger View Post
        How can you be so ******?

        The number "3 KO losses" is meaningless when you don't compare it to "How many total fights?" or "How many total rounds".

        If anything at all, then 3 KO losses in 60+ ultraheavyweight fights is extremely little and a sign of a good chin.

        Joe Louis was KOed by Max Schmeling (193lbs, 56-10). THAT is a bad chin.

        Ali was viciously KDed by bum Henry Cooper (185lbs, 40-14). THAT is a bad chin.

        Ali was KDed by half-blind featherfist borderline cruiser Joe Frazier (205 lbs). THAT is a bad chin.
        There is no worse argument you could put forward than trying to claim that Ali has a bad chin. How ****** must you be to even try.

        Its like you are trying to argue that Donald Trump is a drunken homeless bum.

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        • Originally posted by hweightblogger View Post
          Instead Ali was lucky he never met a part-time kite surfer.
          that's probably the worst comeback ever written on this forum.

          Cong**** on advocating the worst argument AND the worst comeback ever in the same thread.

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          • Originally posted by hweightblogger View Post
            And spare me the Sanders example, Ali never met remotely any southpaw punching as hard as Sanders.

            In fact Lennox Lewis didn't meet 1 southpaw in his career, let alone Corrie Sanders who has one of the highest KO rates of all southpaws. Neither did Mike Tyson. Nor Larry Holmes, nor Joe Louis, nor Marciano (at least judging by the opponents with known stance). Lennox even dropped his belt to not face southpaw Byrd.
            Now would that be because Ali, Lewis, Tyson and Louis never made a habit of picking opponents as faded as 38 years old ones, let alone being partially retired and playing golf?

            And still gets beat by them despite such abject repeated cherrypicking. No, that only happens in Klitscho-land.

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            • If Wladimir Klitschkos has a weak chin then what do you call Tysons chin?

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              • Originally posted by theghost#1 View Post
                If Wladimir Klitschkos has a weak chin then what do you call Tysons chin?
                despite being by far the smaller man in all hisd fights, when was Tyson knocked down during his unbeaten run as a young champion prior to being torn apart by Robin Givens, going to prison and thus giving up on boxing?

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                • Klit haters hate their lives

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                  • Originally posted by hweightblogger View Post
                    Joe Louis was KOed by Max Schmeling (193lbs, 56-10). THAT is a bad chin.
                    Louis was hit repeatedly all night and finally went down in the later rounds. That IS NOT a bad chin

                    Originally posted by hweightblogger View Post
                    Ali was viciously KDed by bum Henry Cooper (185lbs, 40-14). THAT is a bad chin.

                    Ali was KDed by half-blind featherfist borderline cruiser Joe Frazier (205 lbs). THAT is a bad chin.
                    "featherfisted Joe Frazier" That is pure trolling or ******ity.

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                    • Originally posted by DreamFighter View Post
                      despite being by far the smaller man in all hisd fights, when was Tyson knocked down during his unbeaten run as a young champion prior to being torn apart by Robin Givens, going to prison and thus giving up on boxing?
                      Tyson was KOd by Buster Douglas, Kevin MCbride, Danny Williams, NO shame to losing to Holyfield, and LL, you cant criticise Wlad chin and turn around and say Tyson had a good chin.

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