Gabriel Rasado vs Canelo Alverez

[MVOLT]

Lol..........

[Bushbaby]

yeah you obviously can, that's your opinion. i just think that rosado's latest winning streak isn't impressive, and it seems like you're overrating it due to your hate for alvarez. i wouldn't disagree that guys like trout or lara would beat alvarez, but someone like rosado, imo he isn't that good. you're acting like any true 154 lber beats alvarez easily just cause they'd be around the same size on fight night . if that's your way of thinking, i don't know what to tell you

Rosado is bigger than bumhype. He's a strong jr middleweight. He can keep bumhype at range, or muscle him around in close. You fail to realize ginger isn't a big jr middleweight. Rosado is huge. Bumhype hasn't faced anyone in his weightclass that really belongs there.

What I'm acting like is this. We cannot be sure which real jr middleweight bumhype can beat because although he campaigns at 154 he hasn't beaten any of these guys. It's easy for any jr middleweight to look good against Josesito Lopez. That does not mean he will against fighters in his division though, which clearly Lopez was not.

[Nahshon Israel]

Rosado is bigger than bumhype. He's a strong jr middleweight. He can keep bumhype at range, or muscle him around in close. You fail to realize ginger isn't a big jr middleweight. Rosado is huge. Bumhype hasn't faced anyone in his weightclass that really belongs there.

What I'm acting like is this. We cannot be sure which real jr middleweight bumhype can beat because although he campaigns at 154 he hasn't beaten any of these guys. It's easy for any jr middleweight to look good against Josesito Lopez. That does not mean he will against fighters in his division though, which clearly Lopez was not.

^^^^
Totally agree

[chiguy91]

Rosado is bigger than bumhype. He's a strong jr middleweight. He can keep bumhype at range, or muscle him around in close. You fail to realize ginger isn't a big jr middleweight. Rosado is huge. Bumhype hasn't faced anyone in his weightclass that really belongs there.

What I'm acting like is this. We cannot be sure which real jr middleweight bumhype can beat because although he campaigns at 154 he hasn't beaten any of these guys. It's easy for any jr middleweight to look good against Josesito Lopez. That does not mean he will against fighters in his division though, which clearly Lopez was not.

again, i think you're overrating rosado. alvarez obviously is still a bit unproven, but he's made it clear he's no bum. he's not the best at his class (i never said he was), but i just don't think rosado is that good a fighter to surely bet on him beating alvarez. alvarez is not a small LMW btw, imo. i think he's a solid 154 lber. i'm not sure about rosado cause i've never paid attention to his weight.
i agree with your 2nd paragraph to a certain extent. just cause alvarez hasn't faced solid LMWs constantly, it doesn't mean he can't beat some of them. we obviously won't know until he faces them, but like i said before, guys like lara and trout i'd agree with you (on beating alvarez), but i'm not sure about rosado. two different caliber of fighters imo.
i guess it's just a matter of opinions. you think alvarez is a shit fighter, and i think he's a solid fighter. obviously him facing legit competition you'd assume he gets exposed and i think he has a chance to finally prove himself. it is what it is, time will tell when he finally steps up to face guys in his weight class.

[Bushbaby]

again, i think you're overrating rosado. alvarez obviously is still a bit unproven, but he's made it clear he's no bum. he's not the best at his class (i never said he was), but i just don't think rosado is that good a fighter to surely bet on him beating alvarez. alvarez is not a small LMW btw, imo. i think he's a solid 154 lber. i'm not sure about rosado cause i've never paid attention to his weight.
i agree with your 2nd paragraph to a certain extent. just cause alvarez hasn't faced solid LMWs constantly, it doesn't mean he can't beat some of them. we obviously won't know until he faces them, but like i said before, guys like lara and trout i'd agree with you (on beating alvarez), but i'm not sure about rosado. two different caliber of fighters imo.
i guess it's just a matter of opinions. you think alvarez is a shit fighter, and i think he's a solid fighter. obviously him facing legit competition you'd assume he gets exposed and i think he has a chance to finally prove himself. it is what it is, time will tell when he finally steps up to face guys in his weight class.

And that's fine. Until bumhype proves himself, he ain't nothing to me. I won't discredit any other fighter in that weight class in favor of ginger. Because he hasn't proven squat there.

[kiaba360]

It seems like the perception of Rosado is that he's mediocre because he has many losses for a young fighter. It also seems like people are choosing Canelo by default because he has yet to be beat.

[Bushbaby]

It seems like the perception of Rosado is that he's mediocre because he has many losses for a young fighter. It also seems like people are choosing Canelo by default because he has yet to be beat.

I wonder if boxing fans even listen to themselves anymore. Brainwashed isn't the word. I guarantee that if Rosado was the 1 laying leather on bumhype like little Josesito was he'd fold like a cheap chair. (Got that from Iron Dan btw)!!

[el_mas_chingon]

Canelo by K.O., I find it hilarious that haters pick Rosado by K.O. yea sure because Canelos' always shown he has a weak chin, unlike Rosado who has been K.O'd before LMAO. You'll also mentioned Rosado being young when he lost guess what Canelo is even younger and his resume ****'s on Rosados!

[kiaba360]

"Rosado hasn't beaten anybody and got KO'ed by Angulo, so Canelo beats him." Anybody with the ability to analyze will know why that thought-process is flawed. This is what I'm talking about with Canelo getting more credit than he deserves. He hasn't fought anyone yet that's presented a serious threat, either physically or skill-wise. Canelo still hasn't been placed in a situation where he has to answer questions that I have of his.

Rosado has had to prove his resiliency. He's picked himself up over and over again and 2012 was his best year by far. People are hung up on the fact that he has 5 losses instead of watching his progression in the ring against different styles and attributes.

[Nahshon Israel]

I'll tell you I've been following Rosado's career for a while, and if it's a fighter who is better than their record indicates that's Rosado. Yes he lost to Angulo, but if you seen the fight he was boxing Angulo, until he made a mistake complaining to the ref and the golden rule "Protect yourself @ All times". Yes he has loses, but so did Glen Johnson, when he upset RJJ and Tarver, to win fighter of the year in 2004. Matter of fact i believe Johnson had 9 loses when he beat RJJ and Tarver, and a TKO lose to Bhop early in his career. What I'm saying is Rosado seems to have blossom late, and he did have management troubles. Rosdao has great attributes for a Jr Middle he's listed @ 5'11-6'0, physically gifted and has an array of skills. With good defense. Nobody is saying he's great, but he is way better than his record indicates