Why is De La Hoya an ATG?

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  • Wiley Hyena
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    #41
    Originally posted by Ringlife
    I think he is the guy fought everybody he beat Trinidad and Mosley in the second fight but lost to sturm at 160. He's got a win that shouldn't be a win but he's got two losses that shouldn't be losses. He's got some solid wins on his resume he took risks to give the boxing fans the fights that we wanted to see.
    Oscar is HOF. The only blemish on his record is the Hopkins bodyshot KO. The losses were hardfought and respectable. ATG is arguable. It seems just about anybody that attains PPV status these days is automatically deemed ATG. Kinda waters down the classification from its original meaning.

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    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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      #42
      He's an ATG??? News to me.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #43
        Oscar's wins make him a Hall of Famer. His losses are the reason he's not an ATG.

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        • Mr. Fantastic
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          #44
          DLH is an ATG. Maybe not a legend but to do those achievements that he did with a fantastic resume, only a great fighter can do.

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          • B.U.R.N.E.R
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            #45
            If Oscar is an ATG because of all the people he "fought" then so is Zab Judah.

            You have to do more then just fight them.

            Judah fought:

            Khan
            Clottey
            Mayweather Jr
            Matthysse
            Cotto
            Cory Spinks (Twice)
            Corley
            Kostya




            oh and Danny Garcia.
            Last edited by B.U.R.N.E.R; 01-01-2013, 05:13 PM.

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            • Phenom
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              #46
              people should now the difference between all time greats and Hall of famers

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              • niceyboo3
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                #47
                Originally posted by BafanaBafana
                These are Oscar's biggest fights in my opinion (based on the difficulty of the match-up)

                (4-6-0) 1 KO, 2 KOBY

                Loss 47-3-2 Manny Pacquiao TKO
                Loss 37-0-0 Floyd Mayweather, Jr. SD
                Loss 44-2-1 Bernard Hopkins KO
                Win 20-0-0 Felix Sturm UD (very controversial)
                Loss 38-2-0 Shane Mosley UD (controversial)
                Win 22-1-0 Fernando Vargas TKO
                Loss 34-0-0 Shane Mosley SD
                Loss 35-0-0 Félix Trinidad MD (controversial)
                WIN 34-0-1 Ike Quartey SD (controversial)
                Win 40-1-1 Pernell Whitaker UD (controversial)

                Should arguably read (in my opinion):

                (4-6-0) 1 KO, 2 KOBY
                Loss 47-3-2 Manny Pacquiao TKO
                Loss 37-0-0 Floyd Mayweather, Jr. UD
                Loss 44-2-1 Bernard Hopkins KO
                Loss 20-0-0 Felix Sturm UD
                Win 38-2-0 Shane Mosley UD
                Win 22-1-0 Fernando Vargas TKO
                Loss 34-0-0 Shane Mosley SD
                Win 35-0-0 Félix Trinidad UD
                WIN 34-0-1 Ike Quartey SD
                Loss 40-1-1 Pernell Whitaker SD
                Not knocking you just wondering how, in your opinion, a fight could be a split decision when there are 3 judges. You felt 2 judges should feel one way and not the other?

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by niceyboo3
                  Not knocking you just wondering how, in your opinion, a fight could be a split decision when there are 3 judges. You felt 2 judges should feel one way and not the other?
                  I'm guessing he's just emphasizing he feels it's a a close fight he wins.

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                  • Randomum
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                    #49
                    Only cash cow to openly wear fish nets and have titles in 6 divisions. Enough said.

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                    • niceyboo3
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      I'm guessing he's just emphasizing he feels it's a a close fight he wins.
                      Ohh okay I get it now

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