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  • pugilistprophet1994
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    #11
    Originally posted by Papasito
    Loss Manny Pacquiao TKO
    Loss Floyd Mayweather, Jr. SD
    Loss 37–4 Bernard Hopkins KO
    Win 37–3 Felix Sturm UD (Very Controversial)
    Loss 36–3 Shane Mosley UD(Controversial)
    Win 35–2 Fernando Vargas TKO (After a major beating from Tito)
    Win 33–2 Arturo Gatti TKO (Past prime)
    Loss 32–2 Shane Mosley SD
    Loss 31–1 Félix Trinidad MD(Controversial)
    Win 29–0 Julio César Chávez (Very Past Prime)
    Win 26–0 Héctor Camacho (Very Past Prime)
    Win 24–0 Pernell Whitaker UD (Yeah right, VERY controversial)
    Win 22–0 Julio César Chávez TKO (Past Prime & Controversial )
    Win 19–0 Genaro Hernandez (Past Prime)
    Win 14–0 Jorge Páez (Joke fight)


    Who are them?
    Win 13–0 Giorgio Campanella TKO 3 (12), 2:22 1994-05-27 MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada Retained WBO Super Featherweight title.
    Win 12–0 Jimmy Bredahl RTD 10 (12), 3:00 1994-03-05 Grand Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California Won WBO Super Featherweight title.
    Win 11–0 Narciso Valenzuela KO 1 (10), 2:25 1993-10-30 America West Arena, Phoenix, Arizona
    Win 10–0 Angelo Nunez RTD 4 (10), 3:00 1993-08-27 Beverly Wilshire Hotel, Beverly Hills, California
    Win 9–0 Renaldo Carter TKO 6 (10), 2:10 1993-08-14 Hollywood Casino, Bay St. Louis, Mississippi
    Win 8–0 Troy Dorsey RTD 1 (10), 3:00 1993-06-07 Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada
    Win 7–0 Frank Avelar TKO 4 (10), 2:00 1993-05-08 Caesars Tahoe, Stateline, Nevada
    Win 6–0 Mike Grable UD 8 1993-04-06 Blue Cross Arena, Rochester, New York
    Win 5–0 Jeff Mayweather TKO 4 (8), 1:35 1993-03-13 Hilton Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada
    Win 4–0 Curtis Strong TKO 4 (6), 1:40 1993-02-06 San Diego Sports Arena, San Diego, California
    Win 3–0 Paris Alexander TKO 2 (6), 1:52 1993-01-03 Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, California
    Win 2–0 Clifford Hicks KO 1 (6), 1:15 1992-12-12 America West Arena, Phoenix, Arizona
    Win 1–0 Lamar Williams

    Both Mosely fights were controversial as well as the Trinidad fight.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #12
        Originally posted by Papasito
        Loss Manny Pacquiao TKO
        Loss Floyd Mayweather, Jr. SD
        Loss 37–4 Bernard Hopkins KO
        Win 37–3 Felix Sturm UD (Very Controversial)
        Loss 36–3 Shane Mosley UD
        Win 35–2 Fernando Vargas TKO (After a major beating from Tito)
        Win 33–2 Arturo Gatti TKO (Past prime)
        Loss 32–2 Shane Mosley SD
        Loss 31–1 Félix Trinidad MD
        Win 29–0 Julio César Chávez (Very Past Prime)
        Win 26–0 Héctor Camacho (Very Past Prime)
        Win 24–0 Pernell Whitaker UD (Yeah right, VERY controversial)
        Win 22–0 Julio César Chávez TKO (Past Prime & Controversial )
        Win 19–0 Genaro Hernandez (Past Prime)
        Win 14–0 Jorge Páez (Joke fight)


        Who are them?
        Win 13–0 Giorgio Campanella TKO 3 (12), 2:22 1994-05-27 MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada Retained WBO Super Featherweight title.
        Win 12–0 Jimmy Bredahl RTD 10 (12), 3:00 1994-03-05 Grand Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California Won WBO Super Featherweight title.
        Win 11–0 Narciso Valenzuela KO 1 (10), 2:25 1993-10-30 America West Arena, Phoenix, Arizona
        Win 10–0 Angelo Nunez RTD 4 (10), 3:00 1993-08-27 Beverly Wilshire Hotel, Beverly Hills, California
        Win 9–0 Renaldo Carter TKO 6 (10), 2:10 1993-08-14 Hollywood Casino, Bay St. Louis, Mississippi
        Win 8–0 Troy Dorsey RTD 1 (10), 3:00 1993-06-07 Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada
        Win 7–0 Frank Avelar TKO 4 (10), 2:00 1993-05-08 Caesars Tahoe, Stateline, Nevada
        Win 6–0 Mike Grable UD 8 1993-04-06 Blue Cross Arena, Rochester, New York
        Win 5–0 Jeff Mayweather TKO 4 (8), 1:35 1993-03-13 Hilton Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada
        Win 4–0 Curtis Strong TKO 4 (6), 1:40 1993-02-06 San Diego Sports Arena, San Diego, California
        Win 3–0 Paris Alexander TKO 2 (6), 1:52 1993-01-03 Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, California
        Win 2–0 Clifford Hicks KO 1 (6), 1:15 1992-12-12 America West Arena, Phoenix, Arizona
        Win 1–0 Lamar Williams
        In fairness, if you're going to list his controversial wins you should also list his controversial loss's.

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          • Skittlez
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            #13
            Originally posted by Papasito
            Loss Manny Pacquiao TKO
            Loss Floyd Mayweather, Jr. SD
            Loss 37–4 Bernard Hopkins KO
            Win 37–3 Felix Sturm UD (Very Controversial)
            Loss 36–3 Shane Mosley UD
            Win 35–2 Fernando Vargas TKO (After a major beating from Tito)
            Win 33–2 Arturo Gatti TKO (Past prime)
            Loss 32–2 Shane Mosley SD
            Loss 31–1 Félix Trinidad MD
            Win 29–0 Julio César Chávez (Very Past Prime)
            Win 26–0 Héctor Camacho (Very Past Prime)
            Win 24–0 Pernell Whitaker UD (Yeah right, VERY controversial)
            Win 22–0 Julio César Chávez TKO (Past Prime & Controversial )
            Win 19–0 Genaro Hernandez (Past Prime)
            Win 14–0 Jorge Páez (Joke fight)


            Who are them?
            Win 13–0 Giorgio Campanella TKO 3 (12), 2:22 1994-05-27 MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada Retained WBO Super Featherweight title.
            Win 12–0 Jimmy Bredahl RTD 10 (12), 3:00 1994-03-05 Grand Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California Won WBO Super Featherweight title.
            Win 11–0 Narciso Valenzuela KO 1 (10), 2:25 1993-10-30 America West Arena, Phoenix, Arizona
            Win 10–0 Angelo Nunez RTD 4 (10), 3:00 1993-08-27 Beverly Wilshire Hotel, Beverly Hills, California
            Win 9–0 Renaldo Carter TKO 6 (10), 2:10 1993-08-14 Hollywood Casino, Bay St. Louis, Mississippi
            Win 8–0 Troy Dorsey RTD 1 (10), 3:00 1993-06-07 Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada
            Win 7–0 Frank Avelar TKO 4 (10), 2:00 1993-05-08 Caesars Tahoe, Stateline, Nevada
            Win 6–0 Mike Grable UD 8 1993-04-06 Blue Cross Arena, Rochester, New York
            Win 5–0 Jeff Mayweather TKO 4 (8), 1:35 1993-03-13 Hilton Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada
            Win 4–0 Curtis Strong TKO 4 (6), 1:40 1993-02-06 San Diego Sports Arena, San Diego, California
            Win 3–0 Paris Alexander TKO 2 (6), 1:52 1993-01-03 Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, California
            Win 2–0 Clifford Hicks KO 1 (6), 1:15 1992-12-12 America West Arena, Phoenix, Arizona
            Win 1–0 Lamar Williams

            Factor in the fact though that he should have won against Mosley.. and a MAJOR case could be made that he should have won against Tito AND Mosley I.. Don't write your bias bullshyt without saying those aren't controversial as well you ***ing baboo..

            Will anyone complain THAT MUCH if Oscar's resume read:

            Trinidad : SD WIN
            Mosley 1 : SD WIN
            Mosley 2: UD WIN
            Sturm: Draw...


            Nope.. nobody will complain.. So he got a baby gift against sturm but the two names he should have had were far more harmful.


            Damn you ***ing bias.. you ****** camel ***.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #14
                Originally posted by ИATAS
                Not as many as Oscar. Plus he didn't win any besides Forrest.
                Oscar didn't beat any all-time greats either.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #15
                    Originally posted by iseah100
                    Both Mosely fights were controversial as well as the Trinidad fight.
                    What was controversial about the first one?

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                      • Papasito
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                        #16
                        Originally posted by iseah100
                        Both Mosely fights were controversial as well as the Trinidad fight.
                        I don't think Mosley fights were controversial at all, except that he was on the EPO.

                        Trinidad well.. Marquez lost the 3 fight against Pacquiao because he ran the last round, DLH ran the last 4 rounds against Trinidad. IMO

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                          • IronDanHamza
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                            #17
                            Originally posted by Papasito
                            I don't think Mosley fights were controversial at all, except that he was on the EPO.

                            Trinidad well.. Marquez lost the 3 fight against Pacquiao because he ran the last round, DLH ran the last 4 rounds against Trinidad. IMO
                            The second one certainly was.

                            Oscar was very unlucky to not get the W in the second fight. He won quite clearly IMO.

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                              • AztecWanker
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                                He lost to Sturm, lost the Tito fight cuz he's a dumbass, got a gift vs IKE AND Whitaker but got robbed vs Mosley II. His best win is a shot Vargas

                                ATG my ass.

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                                    nothing like DLH hate thread to start the new year..god bless you

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                                        Nvm, his Rafael Ruelas fight was pretty good. It was when he got to WW where he got matched carefully.

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