May 4th card will have Mayweather, Canelo, and Broner fighting on it

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  • Heavy Hitter
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    #71
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Has Roger actually said it though? I haven't seen it. I'm not dis*****g it, I just haven't seen it. I know Sr said it.

    And, I don't believe he can make 140 comfortably at all. When's the last time he weighed less than 146? It's been a long long time.
    My issue with this as well is: On one hand Weebler II says that Floyd Mayweather should fight Sergio Martinez, a guy that is BUILT for the 160lb division(I don't care what weight a fighter can drain himself down to 24 plus hours away from the actual fight). Then on the next hand say that Floyd Mayweather could make the 140lb weight, implying that he can make it pretty comfortably. I don't know how you can have it both ways in this debate. It seems your giving opponents out of 4 different weight classes so you can maximize your "This fighter is ducking ____ oppenent" agenda.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #72
      Originally posted by Heavy Hitter
      My issue with this as well is: On one hand Weebler II says that Floyd Mayweather should fight Sergio Martinez, a guy that is BUILT for the 160lb division(I don't care what weight a fighter can drain himself down to 24 plus hours away from the actual fight). Then on the next hand say that Floyd Mayweather could make the 140lb weight, implying that he can make it pretty comfortably. I don't know how you can have it both ways in this debate. It seems your giving opponents out of 4 different weight classes so you can maximize your "This fighter is ducking ____ oppenent" agenda.
      I really doubt anyone who doesn't have a mental deficiency honestly believes Mayweather can make 140 Lbs comfortably at this stage of his career.

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      • Weebler I
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        #73
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        I highly doubt he actually believes Mayweather could make 140 healthily.

        Surely, he just cannot believe that.

        And, I'm still yet to see where Roger has said that. I tried searching for it but had no luck find it.

        Do you know if Roger said it?
        I saw it in a youtube interview. Anyway, I wasn't saying he should make 140 just that he could meet fighters at a catchweight.

        Besides, didn't Floyd say he lost a load of weight in prison? now he apparently can't make 140lbs.

        If he can't make a catchweight healthily then he should fight Austin Trout or Sergio Martinez.

        Nobody wants to watch Mayweather v Guerrero or watch him shorten a green Canelo's career (besides Canelo haters).

        I'm a boxing fan, I want to see a competitive fight.

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          #74
          Originally posted by The Weebler II
          I saw it in a youtube interview. Anyway, I wasn't saying he should make 140 just that he could meet fighters at a catchweight.

          Besides, didn't Floyd say he lost a load of weight in prison? now he apparently can't make 140lbs.

          If he can't make a catchweight healthily then he should fight Austin Trout or Sergio Martinez.

          Nobody wants to watch Mayweather v Guerrero or watch him shorten a green Canelo's career (besides Canelo haters).

          I'm a boxing fan, I want to see a competitive fight.
          Cmon man. Can't you just admit floyd is a ww. His ability to move up and beat cotto and odh (both for money) doesn't mean he is a JMW. I know you want floyd to lose but can't you find someone at his current weight to do it?

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            #75
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            Cmon man. Can't you just admit floyd is a ww. His ability to move up and beat cotto and odh (both for money) doesn't mean he is a JMW. I know you want floyd to lose but can't you find someone at his current weight to do it?
            That isn't true, I want to see a competitive fight where the champion is challenged by a legitimate threat. Where's the interest in a Guerrero bout where there's no question over who is going to win? it becomes just a procession or an exhibition.

            Manny Pacquiao is a competitive fight at the welter-weight that fans want to see. Tim Bradley although a better JWW is also better fight than Guerrero at 147. I'd even rather watch Floyd fight Clottey than Robert Guerrero.

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              #76
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              I saw it in a youtube interview. Anyway, I wasn't saying he should make 140 just that he could meet fighters at a catchweight.

              Besides, didn't Floyd say he lost a load of weight in prison? now he apparently can't make 140lbs.

              If he can't make a catchweight healthily then he should fight Austin Trout or Sergio Martinez.

              Nobody wants to watch Mayweather v Guerrero or watch him shorten a green Canelo's career (besides Canelo haters).

              I'm a boxing fan, I want to see a competitive fight.
              Any chance of a link or a name of the video or something along the lines? What else was being discussed? Just so I can try and find it. I have searched for it but can't find it.

              Does Mayweather look like he lost a lot of weight in Prison? Anyone with a grain of sense can see what was an attempt to get an early release.

              Do you honestly believe that Mayweather can make 140 Lbs? Or 143 Lbs even? Comfortably, that is. He hasn't weighed lower than 146 lbs since when? 06? Earlier? But at almost 36 he can make 140 Lbs? Or are you just repeating what Sr said?

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              • RichardP
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                #77
                so its gonna be hbo

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by The Weebler II
                  That isn't true, I want to see a competitive fight where the champion is challenged by a legitimate threat. Where's the interest in a Guerrero bout where there's no question over who is going to win? it becomes just a procession or an exhibition.

                  Manny Pacquiao is a competitive fight at the welter-weight that fans want to see. Tim Bradley although a better JWW is also better fight than Guerrero at 147. I'd even rather watch Floyd fight Clottey than Robert Guerrero.
                  Look man, you are killing yourself. You say you want competitive fights, ok. Clottey/floyd, how the **** would that be competitive right now? Manny/floyd, right now?

                  Tim Bradley has beaten casamayor at ww and, even though he won on the jdges card, we both think he lost to Manny. Guerrero has beaten 2 full fledged ww's. So, using your own logic, bradley can't possibly be a better ww opponent for floyd now? Then you suggested a CW in the other thread if floyd and tim fight? you are all over the place.

                  Look if you think sergio and trout beat floyd because of their size advantage and as such you want to see those fights, ok. But don't just delegitimize ghost because you think he loses.
                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-27-2012, 01:12 PM.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    Look man, you are killing yourself. You say you want competitive fights, ok. Clottey/floyd, how the **** would that be competitive right now? Manny/floyd, right now?

                    Tim Bradley has beaten casamayor at ww and, while I think he won, you said he lost to Manny. Guerrero has beaten 2 full fledged ww's. So, using your own logic, bradley can't possibly be a better ww opponent for floyd now? Then you suggested a CW in the other thread if floyd and tim fight? you are all over the place.

                    Look if you think sergio and trout beat floyd because of their size advantage and as such you want to see those fights, ok. But don't just delegitimize ghost because you think he loses.
                    That's where I get lost.

                    I see people all the time say "Mayweather dragged or wants to drag so and so up in weight from one weight class lower" to discredit a win then in the same breath, say "He should fight this Jr WW because their resumes are good at 140"

                    People selling Guererro short IMO. I'd rather see Guererro-Mayweather than Mayweather-Bradley or they're atleast on the same level IMO.

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                    • GrandpaBernard
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                      #80
                      Broner Gamboa as the undercard?

                      It depends on whether Alvarez will be fighting Trout on the undercard. They're not going to insert two fights worthy of their own cards as undercard

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