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Mannys ww run was in reality B level
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostDont you go all red in the head writing that stuff .
Oscar was 145 lbs WTF , that kills the win , prior nobody knew he was going to be a drained waif needing Iv infusions , after the fact the fight is nothing to gloat about .
Cotto was forced to a lowering CW and ducked without it !
In house Clottey was paid not to try and retired a wealthy loser !
Bradley Won on one leg and Pac wont rematch him bit like KT and Vince Phillips .
His WW run is names with special conditions , you got to look deeper than face value .
not Pac's fault Oscar was drained, he picked the weight, not Pac
Pac at the time was nobody to demand anything from Oscar
agreed the win loses luster due to Oscar's condition
but it wasn't Pac's fault
and Cotto wasn't forced to do shit
he said 145 was fine, just didn't think he should have to defend the belt
the weight itself was a non issue, and he wasn't effected by it either
and Clottey fought Pac like he fights everybody else
but he lost closely to others, Pac shut his ass out
and Bradley lost 9 rds, obvious Arum setup/robbery
Pac didn't need to rematch him, he beat him easily
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostDont you go all red in the head writing that stuff .
Oscar was 145 lbs WTF , that kills the win , prior nobody knew he was going to be a drained waif needing Iv infusions , after the fact the fight is nothing to gloat about .
Cotto was forced to a lowering CW and ducked without it !
In house Clottey was paid not to try and retired a wealthy loser !
Bradley Won on one leg and Pac wont rematch him bit like KT and Vince Phillips .
His WW run is names with special conditions , you got to look deeper than face value .
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It's barely B level.
Never unified. Never fought the #1 guy. Hell when was the last time he fought the #1 or #2 guy in a division? Hatton in 2009? That's horrible for a top P4P guy.
If Delahoya had done that back in his prime he would have been burned at the stake.
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Originally posted by Jack Napier View Postyou go on with this shit everyday dude
not Pac's fault Oscar was drained, he picked the weight, not Pac
Pac at the time was nobody to demand anything from Oscar
agreed the win loses luster due to Oscar's condition
but it wasn't Pac's fault
and Cotto wasn't forced to do shit
he said 145 was fine, just didn't think he should have to defend the belt
the weight itself was a non issue, and he wasn't effected by it either
and Clottey fought Pac like he fights everybody else
but he lost closely to others, Pac shut his ass out
and Bradley lost 9 rds, obvious Arum setup/robbery
Pac didn't need to rematch him, he beat him easily
Get it !
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostAnd I tell you this everyday , DONT GLOAT ON THE WIN , it was against a deadman , fault has got nothing to do with it , we are evaluating the win .
Get it !
just fucking said the win loses luster due to Oscar's condition
not gloating about it, saying it's an ok winLast edited by Jack Napier; 12-24-2012, 12:50 AM.
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostThats how it is in all things , it happens then you weigh up all the information much of with your never had before the event , then your write the brief evaluating its worth .
If Oscar didn't prepare properly its his own fault, its like taking credit from Roy Jones because Toney supposedly had weight issues.
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Another thing regarding the DLH fight...who else was he supposed to fight?!?! It's called PRIZE fighting. It was the biggest fight at the time for him by far $$$ wise. Criticize the win all you want but my god, it was a no brainer route, and the ONLY route at that time.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY
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