Mannys ww run was in reality B level

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  • TheBoxingBanger
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    #71
    Haha Reloaded just got OWNED

    Originally posted by Reloaded
    Are talking about the one he offered 50/50 to in the biggest fight in history and he ran away because of a PEDS test , that one ?
    Originally posted by dansweeney
    The only PED in this thread is you...
    @dansweeney, good one mate.

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    • Reloaded
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      #72
      Originally posted by dansweeney
      The only PED in this thread is you...
      Yep but there sure is lot of Pac duckers that cant win a point !

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      • Jack Napier
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        #73
        Originally posted by Reloaded
        Dont you go all red in the head writing that stuff .

        Oscar was 145 lbs WTF , that kills the win , prior nobody knew he was going to be a drained waif needing Iv infusions , after the fact the fight is nothing to gloat about .

        Cotto was forced to a lowering CW and ducked without it !

        In house Clottey was paid not to try and retired a wealthy loser !

        Bradley Won on one leg and Pac wont rematch him bit like KT and Vince Phillips .

        His WW run is names with special conditions , you got to look deeper than face value .
        you go on with this shit everyday dude
        not Pac's fault Oscar was drained, he picked the weight, not Pac
        Pac at the time was nobody to demand anything from Oscar
        agreed the win loses luster due to Oscar's condition
        but it wasn't Pac's fault
        and Cotto wasn't forced to do shit
        he said 145 was fine, just didn't think he should have to defend the belt
        the weight itself was a non issue, and he wasn't effected by it either
        and Clottey fought Pac like he fights everybody else
        but he lost closely to others, Pac shut his ass out
        and Bradley lost 9 rds, obvious Arum setup/robbery
        Pac didn't need to rematch him, he beat him easily

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          #74
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          Dont you go all red in the head writing that stuff .

          Oscar was 145 lbs WTF , that kills the win , prior nobody knew he was going to be a drained waif needing Iv infusions , after the fact the fight is nothing to gloat about .

          Cotto was forced to a lowering CW and ducked without it !

          In house Clottey was paid not to try and retired a wealthy loser !

          Bradley Won on one leg and Pac wont rematch him bit like KT and Vince Phillips .

          His WW run is names with special conditions , you got to look deeper than face value .
          Revising history way after the fact sure is fun isn't it?

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          • GoldSugar
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            #75
            It's barely B level.

            Never unified. Never fought the #1 guy. Hell when was the last time he fought the #1 or #2 guy in a division? Hatton in 2009? That's horrible for a top P4P guy.

            If Delahoya had done that back in his prime he would have been burned at the stake.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Jack Napier
              you go on with this shit everyday dude
              not Pac's fault Oscar was drained, he picked the weight, not Pac
              Pac at the time was nobody to demand anything from Oscar
              agreed the win loses luster due to Oscar's condition
              but it wasn't Pac's fault
              and Cotto wasn't forced to do shit
              he said 145 was fine, just didn't think he should have to defend the belt
              the weight itself was a non issue, and he wasn't effected by it either
              and Clottey fought Pac like he fights everybody else
              but he lost closely to others, Pac shut his ass out
              and Bradley lost 9 rds, obvious Arum setup/robbery
              Pac didn't need to rematch him, he beat him easily
              And I tell you this everyday , DONT GLOAT ON THE WIN , it was against a deadman , fault has got nothing to do with it , we are evaluating the win .

              Get it !

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              • Jack Napier
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                #77
                Originally posted by Reloaded
                And I tell you this everyday , DONT GLOAT ON THE WIN , it was against a deadman , fault has got nothing to do with it , we are evaluating the win .

                Get it !
                can you even read?
                just fucking said the win loses luster due to Oscar's condition
                not gloating about it, saying it's an ok win
                Last edited by Jack Napier; 12-24-2012, 12:50 AM.

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                • Reloaded
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                  Revising history way after the fact sure is fun isn't it?
                  Thats how it is in all things , it happens then you weigh up all the information much of with your never had before the event , then your write the brief evaluating its worth .

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                  • Spray_resistant
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    Thats how it is in all things , it happens then you weigh up all the information much of with your never had before the event , then your write the brief evaluating its worth .
                    Nothing wrong with the Oscar win, he moved up 2 weight classes and soundly battered the guy, it was supposed to be a cherrypick on Oscar's part if you remember correctly.

                    If Oscar didn't prepare properly its his own fault, its like taking credit from Roy Jones because Toney supposedly had weight issues.

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                    • Mike D
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                      #80
                      Another thing regarding the DLH fight...who else was he supposed to fight?!?! It's called PRIZE fighting. It was the biggest fight at the time for him by far $$$ wise. Criticize the win all you want but my god, it was a no brainer route, and the ONLY route at that time.

                      IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY

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