Teddy Atlas on Wlad

[Neuraxis]

um, ok. The nosebleed before the fight explains it all. I get it now. They probably just didn't tellus about the nosebleeds prior to Brewster and Sanders.

What does a nosebleed have to do with what I posted?

No that explains him breathing out of his mouth which was the only evidence that you have for him tiring.

[tracylee]

um, ok. The nosebleed before the fight explains it all. I get it now. They probably just didn't tellus about the nosebleeds prior to Brewster and Sanders.

What does a nosebleed have to do with what I posted?

Absolutely nothing! But that's the whole point, isnt it??

[Neuraxis]

A big shame considering it should have been a 10-8 round. Just for laughs, what did you score that round? Hell, lets go all out and tell me what you scored the fight! I showed you mine; now show me yours

How so, just because you KD someone doesn't mean that you win the round. It gave Williamson way too much confidence and Wlad hurt a number of times in that round after the KD. I had it like 2 of the official judges had it 49-46.

[Neuraxis]

I typed that without checking the rankings page since they only announced his WBC ranking on Showtime in the pre-fight introductions. He's not ranked in the WBA:

John ruiz is champ

1. Hasim Rahman
2. Joe Mesi
3. James Toney
4. Lance Whitaker
5. Andrew Golota
6. Jameel McCline
7. Owen Beck
8. Monte Barrett
9. Juan Carlos Gomez
10. Danny Williams
11. Nicolay Valuev
12. Faruq Saleem
13. Evander Holyfield
14. Wladimir Klitschko
15. David Tua

So he's out of the Top 10 in the IBF at 12 and out of the top 10 in the WBO at 11.

http://www.*********.com/rankings2.htm

If you change what I said to Top 10 and not Top 15, I'm right. My point is, really, that Williamson is not a top contender, not going to get a title shot, not someone that Wlad should have had trouble with.

Thanks for calling me on it, though, I have no trouble admitting when I'm wrong on factual things. I will defend myself though when people say I'm wrong for my opinions.

Since when do top contenders get title shots? If Williamson was with King he would have already have had a title shot.

[tracylee]

How so, just because you KD someone doesn't mean that you win the round. It gave Williamson way too much confidence and Wlad hurt a number of times in that round after the KD. I had it like 2 of the official judges had it 49-46.

Now that is halarious! My score was 47-47 which differs from yours by only that much and I'm a hater?! What does that make you? Unbelievable!!!!!!
Youre right; when you knock someone down but they won the rest of the round its supposed to be scored a 10-9 round for the person that got the knockdown!

[neils7147933]

Since when do top contenders get title shots? If Williamson was with King he would have already have had a title shot.

Usually the guy has to be ranked to get a title shots. Top contenders get title shots when the sanctioning body makes them a mandatory contender. King doesn't want Williamson; how are you going to sell a DaVarryl Williamson fight?

King would have signed Williamson had he beaten Mesi. He might have signed him if he won last night. But DaVarryl Williamson, as he is, is a non-factor in heavyweight boxing.

[Neuraxis]

Usually the guy has to be ranked to get a title shots. Top contenders get title shots when the sanctioning body makes them a mandatory contender. King doesn't want Williamson; how are you going to sell a DaVarryl Williamson fight?

King would have signed Williamson had he beaten Mesi. He might have signed him if he won last night. But DaVarryl Williamson, as he is, is a non-factor in heavyweight boxing.

Oh and Oquendo is much better as is Meehan.

[Neuraxis]

Now that is halarious! My score was 47-47 which differs from yours by only that much and I'm a hater?! What does that make you? Unbelievable!!!!!!
Youre right; when you knock someone down but they won the rest of the round its supposed to be scored a 10-9 round for the person that got the knockdown!

Because that's not an acceptable score.

Round 1: 10-9 Wlad or maybe, but basically no one had it like this 10-9 Williamson

Round 2: 10-9 Wlad

Round 3: 10-9 Wlad

Round 4: 10-9 or 10-8 Williamson

Round 5: 10-9 Wlad, there is no way Williamson won this round

So the only possible scores you could have are 49-46 Wlad, 48-46 Wlad or 47-47, but you gave Williamson the wrong round.

[vB Martin]

No that explains him breathing out of his mouth which was the only evidence that you have for him tiring.

no, there's also his posture, which was sagging as the fight went on.

As for Williamson being a non-factor, I think we might be seeing more of him in the near future. He fought a perfect fight plan, one that went against his normal style, and took the best Wlad had to offer. Granted, as Wlad's stock has dropped in the HW division, it's not a stunning endorsement of him as a fighter, but enough to put him in against some young up and comers, perhaps starting his reign as the new Jesse Furgeson.

[Neuraxis]

no, there's also his posture, which was sagging as the fight went on.

Please explain.