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  • #71
    Originally posted by tracylee
    If last night's "victory" for Wlad was meant to impress, it failed miserably. I'm NOT picking a fight, or hating, so DONT EVEN come back at me with that nonsense, I'd say the same about any other fighter. I had it dead even at the time of the stoppage, and Wlad was the only one to hit the canvas last night. That, and the fact that I gave (objectively) the last 2 round's to Williamson, makes me think that Wlad was lucky that it got stopped.
    Now Nuraxis (sorry if I got that wrong) if you want to debate that, fine. Just please dont start with the "you hate him" stuff or I'm already done. Like I said, I'd say the same about ANY OTHER FIGHTER, I swear!
    How could you possibly not be hating. This just in you gave rounds to guy who ran away the whole fight. Talk about insane.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Neuraxis
      How could you possibly not be hating. This just in you gave rounds to guy who ran away the whole fight. Talk about insane.
      Okay, let me spell it out for ya.

      Judges scores: 49-46 (K)
      48-47 (W)..must hate him; and I gave it a draw
      49-46 (K)

      Considering that I'm not the only one that gave Williamson the runner (it's called "using the ring" and "stick and move") a round or two, they MUST hate him too, right?
      AND, he MUST have 'run into' Wlad, therefore causing the knockdown, right? (the only knockdown)

      Hate? NO,it's called scoring objectively; you should try it some time. If I hated him like you keep saying, why the draw? Why give Wlad any round's at all? ESPECIALLY considering that one of the judges had Wlad LOSING.
      Bet you had it a complete shut out, right?

      My scores: 47-47....DRAW
      Compared to the judges, I wasnt too far off the mark (or too full of hate)
      I thought that D.W. did enough to win the last 2 rounds; had knocked Wlad down, AND Wlad looked exhausted and was breathing through his open mouth (can get your jaw broken that way, ya know?) ALL of which makes me think that he MAY have been lucky to have it stopped when it was.
      Hate?....No, FACTS!
      But, since you claim to know what's in my head so much, and why I do the thing's that I do, etc.. please tell me what I'm going to cook for dinner; cause as of yet I'm undecided.
      Debating with objective Klitschko fans is fine; debating with you is redundant.

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      • #73
        Actually I think every single writer in press row had it 48-46. The one judge obviously hates Wlad. That is an interesting scoring system you have though. Its great. Let's award rounds to someone who runs away and gets tagged with punches in a 4:1 ratio. Its brilliant.
        Last edited by Neuraxis; 10-03-2004, 02:25 PM.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Neuraxis
          Actually I think every single writer in press row had it 48-46. The one judge obviously hates Wlad. There is no way Williamson won.
          But of course; all of us that didnt think he won convincingly, or worship at the church of Klitschko HATE him...press row? Was that REALLY the best you could do? Like I said, redundant. No fact's..just a biased reply. I'll debate with an objective fan; that counts you out and you definately just proved it.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by tracylee
            But of course; all of us that didnt think he won convincingly, or worship at the church of Klitschko HATE him...press row? Was that REALLY the best you could do? Like I said, redundant. No fact's..just a biased reply. I'll debate with an objective fan; that counts you out and you definately just proved it.
            Right on, I edited my post above.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Neuraxis
              Actually I think every single writer in press row had it 48-46.
              Can you confirm this please.

              To me it looks as if Wlad is on the way out, Brewster is garbage, and Sanders can **** a bit but Wlad really has been exposed the last couple of years, it looks as if those whiskers aren't made of the right stuff and strange how he never had a huge stamina problem before, oh apart from when he was KO'd in the 11th in his first loss

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              • #77
                Originally posted by theironone
                Can you confirm this please.

                To me it looks as if Wlad is on the way out, Brewster is garbage, and Sanders can **** a bit but Wlad really has been exposed the last couple of years, it looks as if those whiskers aren't made of the right stuff and strange how he never had a huge stamina problem before, oh apart from when he was KO'd in the 11th in his first loss
                I'm going to go rewatch it when I eat lunch. He didn't have a stamina problem for this fight though.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Neuraxis
                  Right on, I edited my post above.
                  Like I just posted on the other thread; you have convinced me now

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by tracylee
                    Like I just posted on the other thread; you have convinced me now
                    http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=354

                    The truth hurts.

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                    • #80
                      I feel there is no way Wladimir lost the fight or that it was a draw yesterday. Which round did Wladimir get outboxed? It should have been unanimous decision. Wladimir earned his win yesterday, it was not given to him. Wladimir did not fight his best. Yet he still beat a good fighter who had a good night, a top 15 fighter with a big punch. Williamson is very tall and quick, with long arms. Williamson is better than Brewster and Ruiz. I would love to see Williamson fight Toney. How would Toney fair? Wladimir showed great heart when he came back very quickly in the same round. Wladimir showed great stamina too.

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