Teddy Atlas on Wlad

[tracylee]

Are you certain of this?

Are YOU certain? Nobody is.

[NichtGeflechten]

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU....TAKE A BOW, PLEASE!!!

There's gonna be a weddin' call the preacher!!!!!

[vB Martin]

Are you certain of this?

Yes. He was hurt too badly to continue. If he had continued, how could he not have been knocked out?

And in the Brewster fight, he went face down and was crawling on the canvas. There's no way he would not have gotten knocked out cold had that fight continued.

Again, though, I think that's as much a product of his conditioning as it is a glass jaw.

[vB Martin]

Just a real quick note to all the people in here who consider themselves fans of Wlad:

If you relly like the guy, you have to take a really critical analisys of his faults as well as point out all the good things.
Wlad definitely has a skill set that could dominate the heavyweight division, and it's something that I would actually like to see happen, but until someone looks at him and tells him what his problems are, he cannot improve to that point. It will take not only the trainers, but his fans, to get the changes made that are needed if he is to be in the top of the division.
Last night's performance showed again that he is big, but badly conditioned. Be critical without being hateful, and help your man succeed. Continue touting him as perfect, and he will continue to fail.

[Neuraxis]

Williamson is only in the Top 15 of one federation of the major ones. It's by the WBC who also has Tyson ranked and he's won one fight in THREE YEARS!

Williamson's a bum.

Man you are usually pretty on here, but man are you off today. Williamson is 10 in the WBC, 11 in the IBF, and 6 in the WBO, and I can only find the top 10 rankings for the WBA.

[Neuraxis]

For starters, the round where his ass went down on the canvas...but hey, that is just a haters opinion.

Yeah its a shame that the Showtime scorekeeper and 2 official judges gave it to Wlad.

[Neuraxis]

Just a real quick note to all the people in here who consider themselves fans of Wlad:

If you relly like the guy, you have to take a really critical analisys of his faults as well as point out all the good things.
Wlad definitely has a skill set that could dominate the heavyweight division, and it's something that I would actually like to see happen, but until someone looks at him and tells him what his problems are, he cannot improve to that point. It will take not only the trainers, but his fans, to get the changes made that are needed if he is to be in the top of the division.
Last night's performance showed again that he is big, but badly conditioned. Be critical without being hateful, and help your man succeed. Continue touting him as perfect, and he will continue to fail.

He had a nosebleed before the fight, get real man.

[vB Martin]

He had a nosebleed before the fight, get real man.

um, ok. The nosebleed before the fight explains it all. I get it now. They probably just didn't tellus about the nosebleeds prior to Brewster and Sanders.

What does a nosebleed have to do with what I posted?

[neils7147933]

Man you are usually pretty on here, but man are you off today. Williamson is 10 in the WBC, 11 in the IBF, and 6 in the WBO, and I can only find the top 10 rankings for the WBA.

I typed that without checking the rankings page since they only announced his WBC ranking on Showtime in the pre-fight introductions. He's not ranked in the WBA:

John ruiz is champ

1. Hasim Rahman
2. Joe Mesi
3. James Toney
4. Lance Whitaker
5. Andrew Golota
6. Jameel McCline
7. Owen Beck
8. Monte Barrett
9. Juan Carlos Gomez
10. Danny Williams
11. Nicolay Valuev
12. Faruq Saleem
13. Evander Holyfield
14. Wladimir Klitschko
15. David Tua

So he's out of the Top 10 in the IBF at 12 and out of the top 10 in the WBO at 11.

http://www.*********.com/rankings2.htm

If you change what I said to Top 10 and not Top 15, I'm right. My point is, really, that Williamson is not a top contender, not going to get a title shot, not someone that Wlad should have had trouble with.

Thanks for calling me on it, though, I have no trouble admitting when I'm wrong on factual things. I will defend myself though when people say I'm wrong for my opinions.

[tracylee]

Yeah its a shame that the Showtime scorekeeper and 2 official judges gave it to Wlad.

A big shame considering it should have been a 10-8 round. Just for laughs, what did you score that round? Hell, lets go all out and tell me what you scored the fight! I showed you mine; now show me yours