Teddy Atlas on Wlad

[Nautilus]

I have no heart,WOW, what does that even mean. I can see your getting desperate in your arguments. By the way getting up is what a fighter should do. And why are you bringing Tyson into the argument, he is old and shot, who busted up his knee, he has an exucuse. Wlad has had no excuses for his losses.

Well its obvious that we'll have to agree to disagree.

Lennox in his prime was flat on his back twice. He could have gotten up, but he did not. Wlad did get up knowing that he'd be beaten for sure, knowing that a wiser strategy for him would be to let himself counted out. Then noone would have accused him of having no heart. I really think that the "no heart" verdict is not well-intended on your part.

[Sir_Jose]

This article is on the homepage and it is interesting to hear that Teddy thinks Wlad doesn't have the drive, is weak in the heart and the head.

This is my main beef with Wlad, I would love to be a fan of his, but Teddy nailed it on the head about what I feel about Wlad. He just doen't have the desire to dominate. There can be no doubt that this man has all the physical tools, expect maybe not the greatest chin in the world but its not as bad as people say, he just doesn't have the inner intangibles.

pretty much what I have been saying. Wlad just doesn't have it inside him to be a champion, its no big secret. Everyone knows this execpt for hardcore fans of the brothers

[Nautilus]

pretty much what I have been saying. Wlad just doesn't have it inside him to be a champion, its no big secret. Everyone knows this execpt for hardcore fans of the brothers

Nope. Wlad will be the Champion.

[Neuraxis]

He did quit. What person can you say has heart when he outpunches himself and lets a journeyman like Purritty win like that?

Wlad quit. What does it officially say on the record?

"Corner stops fight"

Even though he didn't officially say it, his handlers said it for him.

A good rule in boxing: don't fall in love with a fighter, Neuraxis.

Have you even seen the fight? I am going to say that the answer to that is an obvious no. Wlad's corner ran into the ring during the fight. Wlad had nothing to do with it.

[Neuraxis]

How are you getting these things out of what I'm saying? Wlad is what he is, he could be 10ft tall and have heart or 1ft tall and have heart. Size has nothing to do with Wlad's heart. The fact is that Wlad is a 6'7 240lbs man who beat up a small 213lbs man. Byrd should be commended for taking this fight, but your right he should fight at lighter weights.

I would like you to give me an example of where Wlad displayed heart, and don't even waste bandwidth by saying the Sanders fight. He got knocked down and got back up, thats what a fighter is supposed to do.

True but fighters don't always do it.

[techn9ne]

Zhen heres a quarter let me buy you a clue

[Neuraxis]

I was talking of my fellow posters. Besides if you think that saying somebody has no heart, is hateful nd decietful, than whatever. Its a matter of opinion.

The Lamon Brewster fight is a prime example of why I questioned Wlad's heart. He got tired from punching himself out took some punches from Brewster and went down, when he got up its like he didn't even care. He just sorta collapsed. When I saw the fight again I was like "Brewster barely hit him, was he was so tired that he couldn't get up, or show more grit?"

You wanna see an exhausted fighter, fighting his way through a similar situation go and watch Bowe-Holyfield 3. Thats what Wlad should have done, and its not like he was losing either, he was destroying Brewster, he couldn't gut it out? I think he could have.

You don't seem to know what heart means. Panicking has nothing to do with heart. Yes Wlad may have mental issues, and he may fight ******ly at times, but I don't see how this means that he has no heart.

[semjasa]

Lennox in his prime was flat on his back twice. He could have gotten up, but he did not. Wlad did get up knowing that he'd be beaten for sure, knowing that a wiser strategy for him would be to let himself counted out. Then noone would have accused him of having no heart. I really think that the "no heart" verdict is not well-intended on your part.

I take it you dont know much about LL's fights then, 1st he did get up against M'call but the ref stopped it when Lewis wobbled forwards from the ropes, 2nd no way would any fighter have got up after getting nailed by a sweet right hand from Rahman, who by the way is a puncher...And 3rd how dare you compare Vlad to Lewis they are a universe away in skill and accomplishments, go away and read some boxing books then come back and post something thats factual and no more fantasy....

[neils7147933]

Lennox in his prime was flat on his back twice. He could have gotten up, but he did not. Wlad did get up knowing that he'd be beaten for sure, knowing that a wiser strategy for him would be to let himself counted out. Then noone would have accused him of having no heart. I really think that the "no heart" verdict is not well-intended on your part.

Lewis did get up against McCall but wasn't allowed to continue. He probably would have gone down again, but he did get up.

[Nautilus]

I take it you dont know much about LL's fights then, 1st he did get up against M'call but the ref stopped it when Lewis wobbled forwards from the ropes, 2nd no way would any fighter have got up after getting nailed by a sweet right hand from Rahman, who by the way is a puncher...And 3rd how dare you compare Vlad to Lewis they are a universe away in skill and accomplishments, go away and read some boxing books then come back and post something thats factual and no more fantasy....

I was not implying LL had no heart. My point was that Wlad has heart. I have the right to compare Wlad to LL.