Teddy Atlas on Wlad

[Zhen]

"I will no longer speak of decietful or hateful things of anybody."

Well that was shortlived. How does Wlad have no heart?

He quit against Purritty.

[ChrististheAnswer]

He hates the European fighting style. Did you see how he downplayed Povetkin the whole Olympics? In case you don't know who Povetkin is, he won the gold medal at super heavyweight. Plus I have a tape of Wlad v. Jackson and him and Kellerman are basically downplaying Wlad the whole fight. Jackson goes onto land 0 punches in the whole first round, and Wlad KO's him in the 2nd round. Then Kellerman goes on and on about how this is boxing corruption at its worst and Altas basically agreed with him.

Really? I think maybe its not so much hes downplaying the European fighting style, its that he is downplaying a robotic fighting style. Lets face it Wlad isn't the most technically profecient fighter. He does some things well but the man is robotic(his brother is more robotic than him though). I personally don't have a problem with Wlad's style, but I can see where a boxing purist would.

However your statement about Kellerman and Atlas, if true, is downright proposterous.

[Neuraxis]

You are just discrediting yourself Zhen when you say stuff like that.

[Neuraxis]

Really? I think maybe its not so much hes downplaying the European fighting style, its that he is downplaying a robotic fighting style. Lets face it Wlad isn't the most technically profecient fighter. He does some things well but the man is robotic(his brother is more robotic than him though). I personally don't have a problem with Wlad's style, but I can see where a boxing purist would.

However your statement about Kellerman and Atlas, if true, is downright proposterous.

Well you do what works for you. If Europeans were as athletic as many Americans are, they wouldn't have to fight like that. And yes everything about the Jackson fight is true.

[realheavyhands]

its becuase europian fighters are soft to sweet... america has fighters that know how to box.. not fairys that know how to box

[ChrististheAnswer]

"I will no longer speak of decietful or hateful things of anybody."

Well that was shortlived. How does Wlad have no heart?

I was talking of my fellow posters. Besides if you think that saying somebody has no heart, is hateful nd decietful, than whatever. Its a matter of opinion.

The Lamon Brewster fight is a prime example of why I questioned Wlad's heart. He got tired from punching himself out took some punches from Brewster and went down, when he got up its like he didn't even care. He just sorta collapsed. When I saw the fight again I was like "Brewster barely hit him, was he was so tired that he couldn't get up, or show more grit?"

You wanna see an exhausted fighter, fighting his way through a similar situation go and watch Bowe-Holyfield 3. Thats what Wlad should have done, and its not like he was losing either, he was destroying Brewster, he couldn't gut it out? I think he could have.

[Nautilus]

Byrd has nothing to do with the topic, but if your referring to why I'm not a fan of Wlad, its because I think that Wlad has little or no heart. Besides accomplishments aren't based on how much heart you have.

You were right about one thing though, Byrd does have heart.

Wlad did beat Byrd, so he has heart too.

[Zhen]

You are just discrediting yourself Zhen when you say stuff like that.

He did quit. What person can you say has heart when he outpunches himself and lets a journeyman like Purritty win like that?

Wlad quit. What does it officially say on the record?

"Corner stops fight"

Even though he didn't officially say it, his handlers said it for him.

A good rule in boxing: don't fall in love with a fighter, Neuraxis.

[ChrististheAnswer]

Wlad did beat Byrd, so he has heart too.

Wlad beat Byrd because Wlad is a 6'7 240 lbs. behemoth. He outweighed Byrd by more than 20 lbs. Byrd shows heart by actually taking fights with these monsters, I still don't see how Wlad showed heart. He beat up a smaller man, who really has no business being in the ring with someone that big.

Even the skillful Byrd has his limits.

[Nautilus]

Wlad beat Byrd because Wlad is a 6'7 240 lbs. behemoth. He outweighed Byrd by more than 20 lbs. Byrd shows heart by actually taking fights with these monsters, I still don't see how Wlad showed heart. He beat up a smaller man, who really has no business being in the ring with someone that big.

I think it is not fair. So Wlad is to blame for his height? That's new to me.

As for Byrd and Jirov (who is my most favorite fighter), I think they both are better off at light heavies or cruiserweight. If guys like that moved to cruisers, the cruiser division will be awesome.