If Marquez retired tomorrow where would you rank him as an ATG?

[Larry the boss]

I'm sure you will never rank Marquez above than Floyd because Floyd beat Marquez who beat Pacquiao therefor Floyd will also beat Pacquiao. LOL

Who in the hell mentioned Floyd??what is wrong with you??either contribute to the thread topic or get put on ignore you damn troll

[LeG00N]

I'm pretty sure it's 16 now with the Pac win.

Btw, he's still only a 3 division champ. As much as I want it to be 5, he's only the interim champ at 140 i.e. not a champ at all, and though he should definitely be a champ at 147 now, boxing is boxing, meaning it's corrupt, thus he isn't.

he was actually upgraded to full champ when Bradley got stripped..... so officially he's a 4 division champ.

Which I don't really mind, He has Bradley's title at JWW and Bradley has his @ WW

[Larry the boss]

I'm pretty sure it's 16 now with the Pac win.

Btw, he's still only a 3 division champ. As much as I want it to be 5, he's only the interim champ at 140 i.e. not a champ at all, and though he should definitely be a champ at 147 now, boxing is boxing, meaning it's corrupt, thus he isn't.

He was upgraded to full champ when Bradley fought Manny

[Ray Corso]

He doesn't need the Pac win to define him or "move him up"! His talent has been obvious for years to people who know techniques & methods!! Ray

[Larry the boss]

He doesn't need the Pac win to define him or "move him up"! His talent has been obvious for years to people who know techniques & methods!! Ray

So you just posted that to say what? stop trying to sit on your damn high horse and just answer the damn thread question...and YES THE MANNY WIN WAS THE BEST WIN OF HIS CAREER SO OF COURSE IT MOVES HIM UP

[The Big Dunn]

So you just posted that to say what? stop trying to sit on your damn high horse and just answer the damn thread question...and YES THE MANNY WIN WAS THE BEST WIN OF HIS CAREER SO OF COURSE IT MOVES HIM UP

Larry-if you are someone who thought JMM was 2-0-1 vs Manny, does the KO still move him up?

Wouldn't the win only move JMM up if you thought Manny was 2-0-1.

[Larry the boss]

he was actually upgraded to full champ when Bradley got stripped..... so officially he's a 4 division champ.

Which I don't really mind, He has Bradley's title at JWW and Bradley has his @ WW

well he is not the champ at 140 anymore

[IronDanHamza]

He doesn't need the Pac win to define him or "move him up"! His talent has been obvious for years to people who know techniques & methods!! Ray

You genuinely and honestly believe the Pacquaio win doesn't enhance his ranking?

[Someone88]

Yes, JMM is an ATG.

I'm not sure where I'd rank him, I'd need to think about it some more.

Yep I agree.

[Larry the boss]

Larry-if you are someone who thought JMM was 2-0-1 vs Manny, does the KO still move him up?

Wouldn't the win only move JMM up if you thought Manny was 2-0-1.

I am the type that goes by official wins to be honest and it gets no more official that a brutal ko