If Marquez retired tomorrow where would you rank him as an ATG?

[SpeedKillz]

Floyds resume Castillo he lost, Gatti, Mosley Delahoya Cotto were all has beens so I guess Marcino is much better than Joe Louis since he knock him out when he was a has been or Trevor Berbeck was better than ALI since he stopped him in the 10th round or Camacho better than Ray Leonard since Camcho KO'd Ray Leonard according to your method of ratings

so what does that make manny for fighting them AFTER floyd did then?

lemme guess, when floyd fought them they were has beens, but when manny fought them they were rejuvenated on top of their careers, right? what a textbook moron

and cotto? you mean the cotto manny refused to rematch without a catchweight, after annihilating him years before? that cotto? oh ok...

get a clue clown, you know nothing, and no one respects your opinion, mmk?

[4Corners]

Floyds resume Castillo he lost, Gatti, Mosley Delahoya Cotto were all has beens so I guess Marcino is much better than Joe Louis since he knock him out when he was a has been or Trevor Berbeck was better than ALI since he stopped him in the 10th round or Camacho better than Ray Leonard since Camcho KO'd Ray Leonard according to your method of ratings

Well going by your logic, than Barrera wasn't at his best either when Marquez beat him. And that fight was a lot closer than the scorecards read.

The comparison was weak, Joe Louis was literally done as a good fight when Marciano beat him.

Mosley was coming off stopping Margarito and was the #3 P4P fighter after doing so. Everybody wanted that fight. Gatti was also the #1 JWW at the time, the only JWW raned higher than Gatti was the RING champ Tszyu who'd just come back from a layoff. De La Hoay was also the #3 SWW at the time, and everybody wanted Floyd-Oscar at the time it happened, you can't fault Floyd for that.

It's not even close to the same. Ali and Leonard were Roy Jones shot when those two guys beat them. Get some better comparisons because your comparisons are weak, and sound like they aren't coming from someone who knows what they're talking about.

[SpeedKillz]

I may be overrating them but I consider Manny & Floyd top 20-30 ATG's or even higher. Marquez is in the top 40-50

that seems pretty accurate to me...

[stefl14]

I may be overrating them but I consider Manny & Floyd top 20-30 ATG's or even higher. Marquez is in the top 40-50

I agree with this. IMO I think Manny and Floyd are both arguably in the top 25 and I don't think Marquez's KO win takes as much away from Pac as it enhances his own legacy tbh. As things stand, I'd say
Manny top 25
Floyd top 30 (I think Floyd is the better fighter but I think Manny has the better career, though the devastating KO loss could change the ordering here and I wouldn't argue)
Marquez high 40s

[NEETzsche]

i rank him one place above pacquiao.

[boliodogs]

I don't have an all time great list numbered from 1 to 100 and I doubt anyone else on here does either.I think he was probably one of the fifty best fighters of all time just like Pacquiao. Exactly where he ranks in the top fifty I don't know.

[-DSG-]

Marquez has wins over Peden, Salido, Gainer, Barrera, Casamayor, J. Diaz, Katsidis, and Pacquiao. Has questionable losses to Norwood and John as well.

Manny has wins over Sasakul, Ledwaba, Barrera, Morales, Solis, Marquez, D. Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, and should have the W over Bradley.

Floyd has wins over G. Hernandez, Manfredy, G. Vargas, Corrales, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo, Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz, and Cotto.

Marquez got a big boost by officially beating Pacquiao this weekend, but his full resume of wins still aren't enough to get as high as Floyd and Manny.

your a great poster but marquez is above manny imo

for this era its mayweather,hopkins,marquez,and then pacquiao

[RichCCFC]

I aint gonna rank the greats from the past in order, it's impossible. But Marquez in amongst them for sure.

[Luilun]

Well going by your logic, than Barrera wasn't at his best either when Marquez beat him. And that fight was a lot closer than the scorecards read.

The comparison was weak, Joe Louis was literally done as a good fight when Marciano beat him.

Mosley was coming off stopping Margarito and was the #3 P4P fighter after doing so. Everybody wanted that fight. Gatti was also the #1 JWW at the time, the only JWW raned higher than Gatti was the RING champ Tszyu who'd just come back from a layoff. De La Hoay was also the #3 SWW at the time, and everybody wanted Floyd-Oscar at the time it happened, you can't fault Floyd for that.

It's not even close to the same. Ali and Leonard were Roy Jones shot when those two guys beat them. Get some better comparisons because your comparisons are weak, and sound like they aren't coming from someone who knows what they're talking about.

Mosley was yoked on EPO when he fought Margarito so stop playing ****** Gatti was washed up Delahoya had already knock him out Delahoya wasn't the same hell Valero in sparring gave Delahoya a far worst beating than Floyd or Pacquiao did Floydiot

[Luilun]

so what does that make manny for fighting them AFTER floyd did then?

lemme guess, when floyd fought them they were has beens, but when manny fought them they were rejuvenated on top of their careers, right? what a textbook moron

and cotto? you mean the cotto manny refused to rematch without a catchweight, after annihilating him years before? that cotto? oh ok...

get a clue clown, you know nothing, and no one respects your opinion, mmk?

Your a dumba$$ first I don't mention Manny both him and Floyd are master Cherry Pickers , But I guess some ****** inner city ****** punk dosn't comprehend to well when he reads