Comments Thread For: Juan Manuel Marquez Says Retirement is Tempting

[Bretty Poy32]

Ronnie Nathanielz said that Marquez won.

So did many Filipino's as they were leaving.

Rumor has it that Jinkee thinks Marquez won as well.

jinkey thought jmm won
jmm's wife thought pacquiao won

[Cleaver]

He'll never ever top Saturday. Go out in a blaze of glory. The only reason to continue would be that almighty dollar.

Didn't he get paid **** compared to Pac for IV?


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[BxFanViento]

Marquez should retire IMO.

Nothing left to prove or say he ended his career in a perfect way

However that will not happen since he will be getting offers for a fifth fight that will prove to be too tempting no matter who you are.

We should all stop and reflect on what happend on Saturday Night. That was boxing at it's best I don't care who you root for or hate because Pacquiao Marquez IV exceeded all expectations and for that we should be grateful.

What a Fight!

What a Punch!

What an Ending!

Boxing at it's finest!

[stretchedout]

Rumor has it that Jinkee thinks Marquez won as well.

Are you trolling?

No, I'll try and find the link.

[jr2122]

what I said is true and you know it.
Let's see a 5th fight.
Pac gave Marquez many chances to redeem himself.
Now. it's time for him to give Pac his chance.

This was his chance to redeem himself. The way he got out boxed in the 3 fight and booed off the ring he wanted to redeem himself more than Juan did. And that was only a year ago, thankfully he didn't make him wait another 4 years. So now he wants another chance? he shoulda taken his chances boxing, god knows the judges eat that **** up, specially Lederman. He gets a boner when PAC swings and misses and dances around marquez with no purpose.

[WalkerSmith1921]

BOY is almost over

So even in defeat, Pac stay making his opponents retire lmao

This is a different reason to want to retire. JMM do not want to kill BOY because he has heart and compassion for his fellow fighters.

Do you want BOY killed?

JMM don't want him killed and as a true fan neither should you; because after all BOY do have a family with wife and kids!!!!

BOY should seriously think of retirement because JMM or Mayweather would seriously destroy BOY.

BOY is a nice person and deserve to be around longer for wife, kids and mom.

[FightTalent]

what I said is true and you know it.
Let's see a 5th fight.
Pac gave Marquez many chances to redeem himself.
Now. it's time for him to give Pac his chance.

Since the 1st fight was a draw, naturally a rematch was in order. Fights 2 and 3 were so controversial (Just as the Brdley/Pac fight) that Pac and his team KNEW they needed to fight again to clear things up. No controversy in #4, JMM is in the driver's seat and of course Pac wants a rematch.

[samouraď]

Clown, you tried to make a clever analogy concerning Nadal to insinuate that even though Marquez stretched Pacquiao last weekend and most knowledgable boxing observers believe that Marquez won the first 2 fights - the last 2 are not in question - that Pacquiao is a better fighter.....
" Nadal can lose to a player who was ranked 100th in the world, Lukáš Rosol. This doesn't mean Lukáš Rosol is better than Nadal, "

Dont play ignorant.

It's hard to believe someone like you can wake up in the morning and even get your own pants on by yourself. You're saying that I insinuated that "Pacquiao is a better fighter" - ignoring the fact that I had Marquez winning their third fight clearly, and had picked him to win the fourth?

You are reading way, way too much into the Nadal analogy. For one thing, if you're saying that I am equating Nadal with Pacquiao, that would mean I'm equating Marquez with an unknown, barely-ranked player like Lukáš Rosol? Get the **** out of here. I had him winning their third fight, and picked him to win this one. Clearly you're the one not understanding.

You said this you moron.....
" There is a certain amount of luck in boxing "

Cant you even remember what you typed ?

Yes - do you care to debate me on this point? Tell me, if I'm the world's best poker player, and I play a game of poker and do everything right to the best of my abilities, and I still lose, what has happened? Is the man who beat me better? And before your ******ed brain takes that to mean "Pacquiao's the best poker player in the world" or some ****, that's not what I'm saying. The point is that yes, there is a certain amount of "luck", if that's what you want to call it, in any sport or even life in general. If you want to debate that you're denying reality.

For instance: what if Pacquiao never did that careless move and left him self so open? What if despite being completely capable of such recklessness, Pacquiao simply "forgot" to make such a mistake in the fight, thus never getting laid out?

Your attempt to " direct you to the very post you're replying to " is false, go check my post again. I stated that you are incredibly ignorant for insinuating that Marquez would only have a punchers chance against Pacquiao because of your quote above, as clearly indicated in my post.

Dont misquote me please.

You imbecile. The quote that you accuse me of saying Marquez has a "puncher's chance" in came after I already explained myself:

In boxing, skills, power, chin, etc. all give you a better probability of winning, they do not ensure it.

From the LAST post:

As I clearly state above, skills, power, chin, and etcetera all improve your chances of winning in boxing. Enormous skill at the game of tennisimproves your chances considerably of winning, however it does not mean that you cannot lose to Lukáš Rosol even if you're Nadal.

Understand yet? Your ability to argue is severely underdeveloped for someone so keen on doing it. Let's set the record straight *******: Juan Manuel Marquez did not have a mere "puncher's chance" to beat Pacquiao. He's not ****ing Randall Bailey.

According to you, everybody has a punchers chance, aint that correct ?

Everyone has a "chance". In boxing, because it's different than other sports, it's probably pretty unlikely that a severely under-skilled fighter could defeat a much better fighter by accidentally "schooling" him all night. So a puncher's chance is one of the most reasonable to acknowledge exists. However, Paulie Malignaggi generally can be considered not to have one since he's so feather-fisted.

The point is that dramatic **** happens in boxing. The whole point in watching is that unexpected **** like this can happen. Almost no one predicted JMM would literally knock Pacquiao the **** out to where he's lying face down on the canvas for two minutes. That's coming from me, someone who figured he would win but not like that.

You are ignoring that fact that Marquez clearly has Pacquiao's number, and I have explained why that is. Also, Pac will not be the same, not against Marquez anyways. He cannot outbox Marquez, and he found out what will happen to careless aggression. I simply do not believe that Pacquiao could beat Marquez, because he never has, and Marquez has always made the better adjustments.

You're just a denier of reality. How did Lukáš Rosol beat Nadal? He's definitely not a better tennis player. He was better that day, at the very most.

We're talking about two very evenly-matched but vastly different fighters. That's it. If you are seriously suggesting that Marquez, who was getting sparked before he turned it around, is somehow incapable of losing because the Universe has it written somewhere that he's just plain better, you're insane.

Marquez had never even knocked Manny down. Does that mean "Marquez can't even knock Manny down"? Clearly, no. Explain how your logic is any better than this.

Dont forget about timing, technique, and endurance, willya

Do you know what etcetera means?

Call mommy in to put your pants on, and then go downstairs. She's got your chocolate happy-faced pancakes all ready for you.

[MJ223]

Do it man..... And stay out the game

[BuckToothed]

I think Marquez should return the favor and give Manny a chance to redeem that devastating KO loss.
Manny gave Marquez 3 chances to finally get a definitive win against him.

Honestly, the 5th fight is the only fight I want to see both take, then retire officially right after.

Pac needs to take a paycut and Marquez a paybump (15 million?).
And have OST so both fighters can clear their names and safeguard their legacy.