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  • stretchedout
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    #91
    Originally posted by inITtoWINit
    Well, yeah. He always makes him miss and pay, and so does Manny. The only difference is, in the 5th fight, Manny adjusted with a lot more head movements and feints, then he made the uber mistake of the century.
    Nope, Pac got flattened in the third round as well.

    Originally posted by inITtoWINit
    You act like Marquez wasn't almost on the same end of a ko, in the 5th and almost all of the 6th round.
    Pacquiao has knocked Marquez down 4 times and never come close to knocking him out. How can you say that JMM was close to being out, Marquez has great recuperation and endurance. He was butchering Pac to the body, if the knockout didnt come in the 6th it would have come later anyways.

    Originally posted by inITtoWINit
    We get it. He got knocked out, but don't act like he was getting beat from pillar to post then laid out after being beat the hell up.
    Pac got flattened in the third round as well, your insinuation that Marquez was hanging on for deal life and being dominated is a stretch of the imagination thats for sure.

    Originally posted by inITtoWINit
    It was a great shot. Congradulations Marquez. Things like this happen when you constantly fight the best.
    Things like that happen when Pac fights Marquez, coz hes got Pacs number.

    Originally posted by inITtoWINit
    Plus their styles lend to either one getting caught with a bomb.

    You act like Manny has never even put a single glove on Marquez's face. Get real homie.
    Actually, I thought it was the first time that Manny showed a clue how to fight Marquez, he looked good at times, and he was effective..... but once again JMM made the better adjustments.

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    • stretchedout
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      #92
      Originally posted by bigcursedawg
      Let's be real here. Pacquiao is finished he will never be the same and Marquez would ko Manny even easier this next time if it happens. Juan Manuel Marquez and coward don't even belong in the same sentence.
      Crazy pac fans are being ridiculous.

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        #93
        Dont blame him. Marquez won the third fight too but the Pac fans were so happy to take that fake win and run with it. This put the stigma away.

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          #94
          Originally posted by KING MEAT
          JMM needs to stop ducking pac
          There aint too many people ducking Plankiao right now buddy.





          Pac is highly vulnerable, Bradley should jump on him.

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          • HeroBando
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            #95
            Originally posted by jvsnypes
            Marquez has absolutely nothing to prove to anyone. He needs to retire. He will go down as a mexican legend and will be talked about for centuries to come. What will it mean for him to fight Bradley or Rios or even Manny again? He has the perfect ending to an incredible career. Don't blow it.
            Bradley would mean his 5th divisional belt, a first for a Mexican. Pac, he gets to make about 1/3 of his career purse for a no risk fight, apparently. Whoever he fights, he gets all that fan love he's been craving all his career. Otherwise he might be happy doing commentary on golpe a golpe.

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              #96
              Yes he should retire,that is a great way to go out

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                #97
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                Bradley would mean his 5th divisional belt, a first for a Mexican. Pac, he gets to make about 1/3 of his career purse for a no risk fight, apparently. Whoever he fights, he gets all that fan love he's been craving all his career. Otherwise he might be happy doing commentary on golpe a golpe.
                yeah it kind of sucks being that if pac got the decision on bradley like he should have then JMM would have won the belt here and already had his 5th division.


                Wait did JMM ever win a belt at 140? It says he fought Fedchenko for the interm WBO title.

                Hes only got 126, 130 and 135 unless you count the interm belt

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by streetwaves
                  To say that you had a difficult time understanding my post would be a colossal understatement. That in your opinion Pacquiao has "never beaten Marquez" is completely irrelevant to my post. As is your statement about "Pacquiao not being Nadal, Mayweather is". Absurd; I'm not sure what this has to do with anything.

                  Clown, you tried to make a clever analogy concerning Nadal to insinuate that even though Marquez stretched Pacquiao last weekend and most knowledgable boxing observers believe that Marquez won the first 2 fights - the last 2 are not in question - that Pacquiao is a better fighter.....
                  " Nadal can lose to a player who was ranked 100th in the world, Lukáš Rosol. This doesn't mean Lukáš Rosol is better than Nadal, "

                  Dont play ignorant.


                  I'm assuming you are incapable of concentrating on more than one sentence or idea at a time. The point is not that Marquez's punch was a 'fluke', but that it wasn't a conclusion that was definitely going to happen.

                  But it did, and it was glorious.

                  You said this you moron.....
                  " There is a certain amount of luck in boxing "

                  Cant you even remember what you typed ?


                  You're mentally challenged. I'm sorry to deviate from eloquent posting, but you can't reason with someone when all of the clues about life have fallen out of their head.

                  Marquez does not have a mere "puncher's chance" against Pacquiao. Have you read any of my other posts about Marquez? Here, let me direct you to the very post you're replying to:

                  Clown-boy, you said this.....

                  " For the record, Floyd himself has alluded to the old "puncher's chance". It's fairly well understood that it exists, and although I generally frown upon reducing it to such an unimpressive sounding phenomenon, it's worth noting that even one of the most technically skilled boxers in the world knows it's out there, and that it comes flying at him every time he steps into the ring "

                  Your attempt to " direct you to the very post you're replying to " is false, go check my post again. I stated that you are incredibly ignorant for insinuating that Marquez would only have a punchers chance against Pacquiao because of your quote above, as clearly indicated in my post.

                  Dont misquote me please.


                  As I clearly state above, skills, power, chin, and etcetera all improve your chances of winning in boxing. Enormous skill at the game of tennis improves your chances considerably of winning, however it does not mean that you cannot lose to Lukáš Rosol even if you're Nadal.

                  To take your idiotic statement from above, saying that Nadal's equivalent in boxing is Mayweather opens Floyd up to the possibility that a Lukáš Rosol in boxing could beat him. A ranked 100th nobody. Your words.

                  According to you, everybody has a punchers chance, aint that correct ?

                  My point is this: the outcome was one of many that could have occurred on Saturday night. For Marquez, everything came together in fantastic fashion. He was fortunate, and yes, that's part of boxing no matter what happens. Had Pacquiao KO'd him in round one, that doesn't mean that Pacquiao KO's Marquez in round 1 any time they fight. It's just what happened.

                  You are ignoring that fact that Marquez clearly has Pacquiao's number, and I have explained why that is. Also, Pac will not be the same, not against Marquez anyways. He cannot outbox Marquez, and he found out what will happen to careless aggression. I simply do not believe that Pacquiao could beat Marquez, because he never has, and Marquez has always made the better adjustments.

                  If you think I'm denying Marquez credit, look at my post history since the fight. Lots of praise for Marquez because he's the fighter with the very best chance of pulling something like this off against Pacquiao. That's not because he's the "luckiest man in the world", it's because he's got skills, a big heart, and power.

                  Dont forget about timing, technique, and endurance, willya

                  And when you've got those three things, you've got a much better chance of KOing an ATG than someone like Timothy Bradley does. So all credit to Juan, one of my favorite fighters.

                  For ****'s sake, don't ever consider yourself deserving of a response from me again.
                  Dont concern yourself precious, I have written you off as an idiot.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by theocdog
                    Do you remember Roy Jones Jr yelling OOOOHHHHH PACQUIAO IS NOT GETTING UP!

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by puga
                      come on juan.. **** aint cool
                      You are very quiet today puga.

                      What did you do in the weekend ?

                      Look what I watched on tv......



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