The Mayweather Question

[mannyman]

You're missing the point my point is if he really is this overrated boring guy who cherry picks why do people care? I think the reality is people deep down know he is that good that's why other fighters get a pass not fighting out of there comfort zone like Manny not wanting to fight at 154 when he comes to the ring weighing about the same as Mayweather and had a paper belt at 154. Why Martinez doesn't have to fight Ward and why Canelo has yet to even fight a real 154 pounder. And I like all them guys but fact is they all get a pass. Only guy I have saw catch any heat lately is Canelo.

You make fair points but the reason is because Floyd is the self-proclaimed best fighter of all time, even stating he's better than Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson.

Don't get me wrong, as a boxer u need confidence, even arrogance but to say you're the GOAT not back it up is takes the p1ss. Other boxers may be accused of ducking each other but they don't call themselves the GOAT.

Funny thing is, if Floyd fought Canelo, Martinez and Pac and lost I'd respect him more than not fighting and retiring undefeated.

[fightfan2007]

I agree with most you said to an extent but Floyd when he talks sometimes he makes sense. His defense is great but it's different he relies more on tactic than reflex now that he is older. That is what separates him from Roy and Whitaker.

"sometimes makes sense" lol

ok i'll give you that bro

also I'm not feeling the inactivity.... I agree with your original post... Floyd does get way too much stick whereas the same rules dont seem to apply when others do it.... however I will not condone his once a year rubbish.... if your top of the P4P list (or claim to be) then you gotta be fighting at least twice a year imo... otherwise its not a tue gauge

[fightfan2007]

You make fair points but the reason is because Floyd is the self-proclaimed best fighter of all time, even stating he's better than Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson.

Don't get me wrong, as a boxer u need confidence, even arrogance but to say you're the GOAT not back it up is takes the p1ss. Other boxers may be accused of ducking each other but they don't call themselves the GOAT.

Funny thing is, if Floyd fought Canelo, Martinez and Pac and lost I'd respect him more than not fighting and retiring undefeated.

i hear you but there is a discrepancy here

Manny (whom I think is a hell of a fighter) is allowed to release his M8 aftershave yet boxing fans know he fought for vacant titles and catchweights but yet we dont give him the same stick for saying he's the first 8 weight chmap in boxing history and regularly compared to Henry Armstrong

I aint ****tin on Pac... just giving an example

[puga]

even many fighters think floyd is a coward...check my sig

[CHOWWOKKA]

It's obvious you know nothing about boxing so I'll just post live footage for you. Here lil buddy

You opened up a can of worms by presenting facts to a ****** on NSB. Just admit Pacquiao is god and leave the thread before you waste time on these trolls.

[junior gong]

Language is relevant to society like the slang you use is obviously not American, so you're just using it as an excuse to not answer, try again. But I'll ask again. Who is your favorite fighter? In his era who was a top ten guy who didn't get recognition who you felt he ducked or should have fought?

Its Tommy Hearns and I cant think of anyone who he should have fought. Even though he lost two of his biggest fights, he avoided nobody. It wasnt in his(or his main rivals for that matter) make up.

[mannyman]

i hear you but there is a discrepancy here

Manny (whom I think is a hell of a fighter) is allowed to release his M8 aftershave yet boxing fans know he fought for vacant titles and catchweights but yet we dont give him the same stick for saying he's the first 8 weight chmap in boxing history and regularly compared to Henry Armstrong

I aint ****tin on Pac... just giving an example

True, I hear you but the difference is Pac is humble.

[WitherGlove]

fair post. In my opinion, only thing that bothers me about Floyd is that he doesn't fight a lot. But from a business standpoint I see why. Like he said it's like the superbowl, the more he sits out the more interest. And in reality who is out there for him to fight other than the 3 mentioned names? If he fought 2 to 3 times a year who would be left? Atleast now with all the sc****s we can say that guy has a chance. If he beat them already what would be left?

[The Big Dunn]

True, I hear you but the difference is Pac is humble.

I hear your point but whether one acts humble or narcissistic outside of the ring has no bearing on how his skills or opponents are evaluated. I mean manny being a good guy (while boning hookers/waitresses) doesn't elevate clottey or give him apass for making Miguel go to 145. does it?

[WitherGlove]

True, I hear you but the difference is Pac is humble.

I'm sorry man Manny ain't humble if he truly was he wouldn't have so Manny contradictions, when trying to fight him. I like the guy but he comes across to me like the preachers who say he I'm holy but has a hoe on the side. Ask yourself honestly when was the last time Manny fought someone when things were even and he didn't have a stipulation in the contract? It was when he didn't have a name. Which to me makes him the same as everyone else. Even Ward as humble as he is said if Dawson wants to fight me I ain't budging 168 or nothing. It's a business. Humble means nothing when money is involved