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  • #51
    I just don't see how this is "shocking" about Floyd???? Maybe I'm missing something, but this is the same stuff that Montoya guy started several months ago, providing no source at all. So how can you call yourself a credible boxing site, yet pass something off as facts without providing any source whatsoever???

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    • #52
      Oh and it's the same stuff that prompted Golden Boy and their attorneys to send a letter to Montoya saying they'll take legal action, and he removed his supposed story without a source, and the rest was history.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by jsfd26 View Post
        Holy **** seriously? I am no longer a Berto fan. **** that dude. Also, screw Morales. He's a damn cheat. After what warp posted saying only 1 in a million are contaminated it leads me to believe the du de is a cheat.



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        Why Berto? He was already caught and paid the price. GBP uses USADA instead of VADA, saying Berto refused to take VADA again is only Hauser the criminal's words.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
          I just don't see how this is "shocking" about Floyd???? Maybe I'm missing something, but this is the same stuff that Montoya guy started several months ago, providing no source at all. So how can you call yourself a credible boxing site, yet pass something off as facts without providing any source whatsoever???
          Only because many don't like Floyd. They only choose to believe bad things for that but god loves them too. #TheMoneyTeam

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
            The Morales stuff throws up a lot of questions, and in truth it makes the testing process look absolutely ridiculous by the standards of testing in most professional sports.

            The key statement in Part 2 of the article is this:

            “USADA should not enter into a contract that doesn’t call for it to report positive test results to the appropriate governing body.” Catlin states. “If it’s true that USADA reported the results [in the Morales case] to Golden Boy and not to the governing state athletic commission, that’s a recipe for deception.”

            If:

            (1) USADA are entering to contracts where they do not have to report positive tests to the governing body, and

            (2) they instead reported the positive test to Golden Boy in the case of the Morales-Garcia fight,

            then that undermines any and all testing conducted by USADA in boxing to date. It creates a situation where there is far too much discretion placed in the hands of parties other than the organization that is governing the event.

            Also, it lends credence to the behaviour of USADA as described by Hauser in the instance of the supposed Floyd Mayweather failed tests.
            Thats why they dump VADA, VADA reports to Governing committee thats why the two fights of Peterson and Berto fight was cancelled... With USADA, they can do anything... they can hide the the result up to the fight so fight wont be cancelled... The reason of this testing is to protect the fighters, you dont want the other guy to have an artificial edge to the other fighter on the fight night, but looks like GBP drug testing only want to protect the fight itself from cancelation.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by sapaw View Post
              Thats why they dump VADA, VADA reports to Governing committee thats why the two fights of Peterson and Berto fight was cancelled... With USADA, they can do anything... they can hide the the result up to the fight so fight wont be cancelled... The reason of this testing is to protect the fighters, you dont want the other guy to have an artificial edge to the other fighter on the fight night, but looks like GBP drug testing only want to protect the fight itself from cancelation.
              But how is this relevant to the fact that the USADA has released Floyd's testing for all 3 of his fights, and all tests were clean??? Yet there's supposed "source" that knows Floyd failed 3 tests......but he's not mentioned once.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by BIGMARS
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                Originally Posted by jsfd26

                Holy **** seriously? I am no longer a Berto fan. **** that dude. Also, screw Morales. He's a damn cheat. After what warp posted saying only 1 in a million are contaminated it leads me to believe the du de is a cheat.



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                Why Berto? He was already caught and paid the price. GBP uses USADA instead of VADA, saying Berto refused to take VADA again is only Hauser the criminal's words.
                He paid the price? What price dude ? It can easily be confirmed if VADA was offered or not. Screw all these damn cheats. From now on if you get caught you get caught. No benefit of the doubt for anyone.


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                • #58
                  Originally posted by jsfd26 View Post
                  He paid the price? What price dude ? It can easily be confirmed if VADA was offered or not. Screw all these damn cheats. From now on if you get caught you get caught. No benefit of the doubt for anyone.


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                  What about Floyd???

                  The stuff about Morales and Quillin, there's enough facts around those two guys to make it look suspect. But the stuff about Floyd has not one single source at all.

                  Montoya himself said months ago that he knew someone, that knew someone who knew Floyd failed 3 tests. Nevermind the fact that no source is mentioned or that the USADA themselves released his test results to the public for those 3 fights.

                  To throw the stuff in about Floyd with no proof or evidence, or even a named source, it makes Hauser look bad, and it looks really not credible from a website trying to pass itself off as a credible website.

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                  • #59
                    I dunno, but where's there's smoke there's fire

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by 4Corners
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                      Originally Posted by jsfd26

                      He paid the price? What price dude ? It can easily be confirmed if VADA was offered or not. Screw all these damn cheats. From now on if you get caught you get caught. No benefit of the doubt for anyone.


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                      What about Floyd???

                      The stuff about Morales and Quillin, there's enough facts around those two guys to make it look suspect. But the stuff about Floyd has not one single source at all.

                      Montoya himself said months ago that he knew someone, that knew someone who knew Floyd failed 3 tests. Nevermind the fact that no source is mentioned or that the USADA themselves released his test results to the public for those 3 fights.

                      To throw the stuff in about Floyd with no proof or evidence, or even a named source, it makes Hauser look bad, and it looks really not credible from a website trying to pass itself off as a credible website.
                      I don't care about Floyd. He's as suspect as Manny or Berto or Peterson or Morales.



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