Is Joe Calzaghe an ATG?

[happyman]

this non-atg still has wins over hopkins and jones

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

this non-atg still has wins over hopkins and jones

Yep, and they were in their prime too.

[daggum]

LMAO Ring magazine said the decision should have been UNANIMOUS for Calzaghe, and Hopkins is American AND Golden Boy

your argument has the substance of a cold bucket of sick

get over it

why doesn't my argument have substance? i have evidence of hopkins outlanding calzaghe in most of the rounds while barely being touched. what's your evidence? ring magazine said so and so! wow well that seals it for you. i forgot the secret 5th judging criteria "what does ring magazine say?"

[daggum]

And slapping doesn't count.

it is actually illegal to hit with the inside of the glove which is what calzaghe does on 90 percent of his punches. but hopkins is the dirty one of course! I HATE FACTS!

[happyman]

and still undefeated...

[Earl-Hickey]

why doesn't my argument have substance? i have evidence of hopkins outlanding calzaghe in most of the rounds while barely being touched. what's your evidence? ring magazine said so and so! wow well that seals it for you. i forgot the secret 5th judging criteria "what does ring magazine say?"

If the ring Magazine (Golden Boy Propeganda) says it, it's pretty damn hard to argue.

Pull out all the "evidence" you want, i've got the official result in black and white, it says Calzaghe won.

[daggum]

If the ring Magazine (Golden Boy Propeganda) says it, it's pretty damn hard to argue.

Pull out all the "evidence" you want, i've got the official result in black and white, it says Calzaghe won.

well i don't agree with that at all. just because a magazine says it it's true? that was just one writer at ring and that was probably before golden boy even bought it. being willfully ignorant is a bold position to take. do you not think landing punches and having good defense is important in a fight? i mean those are the rules but you don't seem to care. you seem to care what a magazine thinks.

[Rip Chudd]

well i don't agree with that at all. just because a magazine says it it's true? that was just one writer at ring and that was probably before golden boy even bought it. being willfully ignorant is a bold position to take. do you not think landing punches and having good defense is important in a fight? i mean those are the rules but you don't seem to care. you seem to care what a magazine thinks.

Obviously not

[daggum]

Obviously not

you never know. you got some people who just say "work rate" like it actually means something. you can have a high work rate and not accomplish anything if you are doing it wrong and missing(calzaghe) or you can have a low work rate and accomplish the job(hitting other guy in face) trying hard and failing only earns you a trophy in little leauge or now in boxing it seems.

[RVABoxer]

wow he has 32 kos? im surprised the only fight i saw was the hopkins one i thought calzaghe lost that fight his punches looked super weak like he was slapping and i never had interest to see another one of his fights