Can Today's Heavyweights Fight Like This?

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  • BattlingNelson
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    #21
    Was that 5 headbutts in that gif'o'juicers?

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    • TysonBomb
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      #22
      Wlad would have a heart attack like he did against Brewster

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      • vacon04
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        #23
        Those HWs were a lot smaller than present heavyweights. Those guys were just above cruiserweight size, not 240+ pounds like Wlad or Vitali.

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          #24
          Originally posted by vacon04
          Those HWs were a lot smaller than present heavyweights. Those guys were just above cruiserweight size, not 240+ pounds like Wlad or Vitali.
          Bowe was 6'5" 240

          But thats cruiserweight size to the minds of the ****schko fans
          Last edited by TysonBomb; 11-13-2012, 04:33 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by TysonBomb
            Bowe was 6'5" 240

            But thats cruiserweight size to the minds of the ****schko fans
            Most HWs weren't like that. Ali, Tyson, Norton, Frazier, all those guys and a lot more were around 210-220.

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              #26
              Originally posted by vacon04
              Most HWs weren't like that. Ali, Tyson, Norton, Frazier, all those guys and a lot more were around 210-220.
              Thats not a lot smaller

              Wlad was around 225 lbs when he started

              Dempsey beat Willard who was ****scko of the past at 6'6" 245 lbs

              Sanders was 225 lbs when he nearly ended Wlads career
              Last edited by TysonBomb; 11-13-2012, 04:55 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                Was that 5 headbutts in that gif'o'juicers?
                Those old school cats were tough motherfuckers.

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                • vacon04
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by TysonBomb
                  Thats not a lot smaller

                  Wlad was around 225 lbs when he started

                  Dempsey beat Willard who was ****scko of the past at 6'6" 245 lbs
                  Oh man of course that's a lot smaller, 25 pounds is a lot! Take for example guys at 135 and guys at 160, their punching output is completely different.

                  Muscle consumes a lot of calories, so if out of those 25 pounds we get that maybe 15 are of pure muscle, we're talking about expending a lot more calories that guys that were 210 or 220.

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                  • damuttz112
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by vacon04
                    Oh man of course that's a lot smaller, 25 pounds is a lot! Take for example guys at 135 and guys at 160, their punching output is completely different.

                    Muscle consumes a lot of calories, so if out of those 25 pounds we get that maybe 15 are of pure muscle, we're talking about expending a lot more calories that guys that were 210 or 220.
                    Mate, Bowe was a superheavy at 240lb when fit. It's pretty damn impressive for a big man like him to showcase that type of ability to fight on the inside.

                    Back in the days, referees allowed infighters a chance to do some work on the inside. And those who tried to hold and grab were often warned or penalized. I seem to also remember refs coming in and moving a fighters arms down if they just instinctively reached up to grab.

                    If you notice in the gif, Cortez attempts to break up the clinch but gives them an opportunity to make of something out of it which results in fast counter hooks on the inside. Awesome.

                    Most of the Boxers today (bar the K2) are just fucking lazy.

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                    • Capaedia
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by vacon04
                      Most HWs weren't like that. Ali, Tyson, Norton, Frazier, all those guys and a lot more were around 210-220.
                      So why could Bowe fight like that?

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