Who do you rank higher? Wlad Klitschko or Larry Holmes?

[Boxing Bob]

It's true though

Some Examples

RJJ Will brutally **** Benn-Eubank etc threads

RJJ **** on Calzaghe during Prime threads.
Calzaghe is over rated hype job ****ing bum

Prime Hopkins **** on Calzaghe


Stuff like that.

Froch and Lennox get more pass then the rest, but that can be explained.

1-Froch was dominated by Ward. Which makes him ok

2- Lennox Lewis is the American Weapon to counter something they hate even more. The Klithsckos

American Boxing Posters need Lewis because of the tko6 and because in all
h2h match ups he is the only super heavyweight they can use to bash the Klithschos.

Since most Klitschko fans like to use size as an argument, Lewis being the Super HW he is , is the perfect Kbro Foil.



You can tell the extreme bias right away though, when the same posters
bashing the kbros by using 'TKO6' AND 'LEWIS WASN'T EVEN PRIME BRAH'

viciously turn on Lennox in another thread entitled

prime tyson vs prime lewis
then all of a sudden Lewis becomes a glass Jaw Brit who Tyson will brutally murder ....

More anti American sentiment from the king of that bull****!

[Salardo]

More anti American sentiment from the king of that bull****!

he just telling the truth

[Mikhnienko]

He avenged both his loses, the Rahman one was certainly more emphatic but after watching both McCall fights I never felt McCall was really the better man so strange circumstance aside I am alright.

Except Lennox does not really deserve to be the only man that stopped the Atomic Bull, I don't know what you would call that victory but even TKO is to strong for me.

When defining legacies something that hasn't been mentioned yet regarding their losses is length of time you dominated a division in your prime. One could argue that Klychko hasn't lost in his prime unlike Lewis or Holmes.

Lewis age at loss
Mccall I - 29
Rahman I - 35

Holmes age at loss (or gift)
Norton - 28
Witherspoon - 33
Williams - 35
Spinks I - 35
Spinks II - 36

Klychko age at loss
Purrity - 22
Sanders - 26
Brewster - 28

[Daddy T]

When defining legacies something that hasn't been mentioned yet regarding their losses is length of time you dominated a division in your prime. One could argue that Klychko hasn't lost in his prime unlike Lewis or Holmes.

Lewis age at loss
Mccall I - 29
Rahman I - 35

Holmes age at loss (or gift)
Norton - 28
Witherspoon - 33
Williams - 35
Spinks I - 35
Spinks II - 36

Klychko age at loss
Purrity - 22
Sanders - 26
Brewster - 28

perhaps one could, but one would have to be a ******

[The Gambler1981]

When defining legacies something that hasn't been mentioned yet regarding their losses is length of time you dominated a division in your prime. One could argue that Klychko hasn't lost in his prime unlike Lewis or Holmes.

Lewis age at loss
Mccall I - 29
Rahman I - 35

Holmes age at loss (or gift)
Norton - 28
Witherspoon - 33
Williams - 35
Spinks I - 35
Spinks II - 36

Klychko age at loss
Purrity - 22
Sanders - 26
Brewster - 28

Wlad has longevity going for him, that is why he is considered a great fighter if he didn't have that he would not even be in the conversation.

One could also argue that Wlad has not seen anyone the quality of Witherspoon or Norton or even Spinks (although I personally don't see a former 175 pounder messing with Wlad), and close debatable decisions are not the same as getting taken out by clearly inferior opposition.

[BennyST]

When defining legacies something that hasn't been mentioned yet regarding their losses is length of time you dominated a division in your prime. One could argue that Klychko hasn't lost in his prime unlike Lewis or Holmes.

Lewis age at loss
Mccall I - 29
Rahman I - 35

Holmes age at loss (or gift)
Norton - 28
Witherspoon - 33
Williams - 35
Spinks I - 35
Spinks II - 36

Klychko age at loss
Purrity - 22
Sanders - 26
Brewster - 28

So he's not in his prime across a six/seven year period between losses, with many championship defenses and nearly 50 pro fights across a ten year career?

[BennyST]

perhaps one could, but one would have to be a ******

Much better put.

[4Corners]

Holmes easily in my book. Though Holmes' era was weaker as well, he still got Ken Norton and Earnie Shavers on his resume, along with dominating the others like Evangelista, Ocasio, Weaver, LeDoux, Berbick, Witherspoon, and Williams. He also didn't get KO'd in his prime by fighters like Sanders and Brewster.

Wlad beat Byrd and Haye, his two best wins. But I don't think Byrd and Haye are as good as Norton and Shavers. And the others that Wlad has dominated: Brock, Ibragimov, Peter, Thompson, Chagaev, and Chambers, they aren't any better than beating the others that Holmes beat.

In fact, I think Berbick would beat the likes of Chagaev, Thompson, Ibragimov, Brock, Chambers, and all of those others H2H.

[4Corners]

When defining legacies something that hasn't been mentioned yet regarding their losses is length of time you dominated a division in your prime. One could argue that Klychko hasn't lost in his prime unlike Lewis or Holmes.

Lewis age at loss
Mccall I - 29
Rahman I - 35

Holmes age at loss (or gift)
Norton - 28
Witherspoon - 33
Williams - 35
Spinks I - 35
Spinks II - 36

Klychko age at loss
Purrity - 22
Sanders - 26
Brewster - 28

Wlad wasn't in his prime when he got stopped by Corrie Sanders and Brewster???? He was like 26-27 years old, had been a HW champ for 3 years, and had beaten Chris Byrd (one of his two best wins) already. He was in his prime in 03-04.

[Salardo]

Holmes easily in my book. Though Holmes' era was weaker as well, he still got Ken Norton and Earnie Shavers on his resume, along with dominating the others like Evangelista, Ocasio, Weaver, LeDoux, Berbick, Witherspoon, and Williams. He also didn't get KO'd in his prime by fighters like Sanders and Brewster.

Wlad beat Byrd and Haye, his two best wins. But I don't think Byrd and Haye are as good as Norton and Shavers. And the others that Wlad has dominated: Brock, Ibragimov, Peter, Thompson, Chagaev, and Chambers, they aren't any better than beating the others that Holmes beat.

In fact, I think Berbick would beat the likes of Chagaev, Thompson, Ibragimov, Brock, Chambers, and all of those others H2H.

say that again. "holmes dominated witherspoon and williams"?
most pple say he got gift decisions in both of those fights, so he didnt dominate nobody of the two. and the Norton fight was a draw in my book.