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  • bojangles1987
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    #121
    Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
    My bad. I was thinking of something else. I got confused. lol
    Ponjongkam. Similar enough to get confused.

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    • THE REED
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      #122
      SwatThePoon

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      • garfios
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        #123
        Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
        The "controversial" loss in Japan that guy was referring to was against Sydorenko in 2006. He has a more recent loss against Ryol Li Lee (he was considered a nobody) in late 2010, which I don't think was controversial.

        EDIT: Maybe I'm wrong. I found a thread where jreckoning said the 2006 fight was a robbery, but now he's calling the most recent one a robbery and just calls Sydorenko just a loss.
        What I heard was the one against Lee was a robbery, he fought Sydorenko 6 or 7 years ago and anyone can have a bad night, still both fights were close and he is been in a winning streak, the guy is not coming from consecutive loses and is the #3 behind GR and ND, this guy can punch and take it too, solid fight and a true test.

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        • Light_Speed
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          #124
          Originally posted by kiaba360
          No, I didn't forget how close the first fight was, nor did I forget all the nonsense that Mares pulled without getting warned, but I'm going by the data only. Agbeko has 32 fights, and his first 20 are against nobodies. Then he loses a close fight to Sydorenko, who later didn't amount to much and got bludgeoned by Donaire. Then, he fights a nobody, takes almost 3 years off and beats 2 more nobodies. He beats Luis Perez (25-1) who had a decent resume up to that point, but didn't go anywhere. He beats William Gonzalez (21-2), who had a worst resume than Perez and also didn't amount to anything. He beats Vic (32-1), his most significant victory. He then loses to Perez (19-0), whos resume is lackluster. Agbeko avenges his loss, and then he fights Mares to two decision losses, the first which was controversial.

          Only victory that I value is Darchinyan, his resume doesn't have depth, but then again, many resumes don't nowadays. If this is the case, it just reinforces my opinion that Darchinyan is a more worthy opponent than Agbeko.

          Poonsawat's resume probably ain't all that either, but he has 50 fights with 2 losses. His volume and longevity is what makes him a better option.
          You value the Darchinyan win but you don't value the Perez win? Even though Perez nearly beat Mares? Agbeko's resume in the last couple years is better than Darchinyan's and of course much better than Poonsawat's.

          Originally posted by Tobi.G
          This Poonsawat-guy is one of the best and easily the best opponent Rigo would face yet.
          Well it's not saying much given Rigo's past opposition.

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          • kiaba360
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            #125


            I don't think I'll be actively judging Poonsawat/Rigondeaux due to the styles.

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            • spazdarn
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              #126
              I paid silly money to see the poon destroy Bernard Dunne a few years ago... He's a spent force now though

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              • Bermuda
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                #127
                Originally posted by spazdarn
                I paid silly money to see the poon destroy Bernard Dunne a few years ago... He's a spent force now though
                true he hasn't really fought any known names or any credible opponents since his loss to that lee guy back in 2010....he's 31 with 50 pro fights and his style is the kind that doesn't exactly guarantee longevity in the sport. i assume he must be slightly past prime by now...but he's still considered a credible opponent for rigo (since he's ranked #2 now by ring) and if he is still his usual self from a few years back then he should give rigo a good, tough fight. it will be an exciting/action packed fight much like donaire vs arce...i'm looking forward to it.

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                • 4Corners
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                  #128
                  This guy is #2 in the division, behind Ring Champ Donaire and #1 Rigondeaux. And people are complaining about this fight??? But they had no problem with Donaire, who can pick and choose his opponents down there, fighting Vazquez Jr and Mathebula???

                  This would be Rigondeaux's 3rd win against a Top 10 fighter at 122, which would be 2 more than Vazquez Jr and Mathebula combined.

                  If Rigondeaux beats this guy, and Donaire beats Arce, there are absolutely no excuses. Hopefully Arum matches them next Spring if they both win. Because Golden Boy isn't letting Mares go, and the Mares/Moreno winner would likely never get done.

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                  • crold1
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by 4Corners
                    This guy is #2 in the division, behind Ring Champ Donaire and #1 Rigondeaux. And people are complaining about this fight??? But they had no problem with Donaire, who can pick and choose his opponents down there, fighting Vazquez Jr and Mathebula???

                    This would be Rigondeaux's 3rd win against a Top 10 fighter at 122, which would be 2 more than Vazquez Jr and Mathebula combined.

                    If Rigondeaux beats this guy, and Donaire beats Arce, there are absolutely no excuses. Hopefully Arum matches them next Spring if they both win. Because Golden Boy isn't letting Mares go, and the Mares/Moreno winner would likely never get done.
                    Don't know if I'd rate him quite that high at this point (I know Ring does), but he hasn't shown remarkable decline and is definitely a good fighter. Whether it's him, Darch, or Agbeko, it looks like Rigo is taking the sort of step up fight he needs next and that's great.

                    If he wins against someone like that in December, there are really only three good answers for Donaire (and I'd be happy with any of them):

                    1) The Red Sea parted, TR and GBP made up for a day, and I'm fighting the Mares-Moreno winner (that would trump anything else at 22);

                    2) I'm moving up to fight Salido; or,

                    3) Get me Rigo.

                    Any of those is good stuff.

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                    • ddangerous
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                      #130
                      Glad to see Rigo and Donaire on the same card. Good sign.

                      That said, I like this fight. Good, stern test for Rigo.

                      Somebody is getting floored.

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