the Alvarez hate NEEDS to stop.

[New England]

The fact he was wobbled by Jose Cotto is worrysome. J. Cotto is a crap fighter, you ever seen him live?

I'm sure he's gotten better, but J. Cotto is a much smaller fighter then Miguel. Chins don't improve....

sure they do. your chin gets better between the time you're a boy and a man. it won't "improve" after that, unless you're adding weight after being drained, showing up in better shape, etc.

go hit your 19 year old cousin on his chin. then wait until he's in his mid 20's and hit him again.

huge difference.


canelo has shown a solid chin against his recent opponents. they're smaller guys and not huge punchers (cintron and mosley were both ****ers, but were both totally shot when they fought canelo,) but they're better and bigger fighters than jose cotto, and he's not getting wobbled when he takes their shots.

his D used to let quite a few punches in. he's getting better, though.

[Cali boxer]

I really want to like this guy, but it's just too hard when his division has so many fights to be made and instead he fights a brings a guy out of retirement and a 140 lb. I'll reserve any judgment on the kid 'till he fights a top 10 guy in his division.

[jtiger777]

I really want to like this guy, but it's just too hard when his division has so many fights to be made and instead he fights a brings a guy out of retirement and a 140 lb. I'll reserve any judgment on the kid 'till he fights a top 10 guy in his division.

ill give u that one on that 140 thing that was pretty wrong!

[kiaba360]

I can't make predictions? I can't predict that Canelo will tear everyone at 154 up?

The guy attempted to fight 3 strong opponents but luck wasn't on his side, so these fights didn't come to fruition.

And now he's calling out 3 more tough opponents: Cotto, Martinez and Mayweather.

The guy isn't a duck, he's been fighting since a teen, he doesn't fear anyone.

He will fight the winner of Vanes/Lara if he's mandated to. No ducking from him.

You didn't write it as a prediction though. You've called him "the real deal", "the future of boxing", and said that "he runs 154". How are you running a division when you still have the training wheels on? He's a young titlist without respectable opposition on his resume. At least Rosado has fought Angulo/Powell/Whittaker. At least Kirkland has fought Angulo and Molina. At least Lara/Molina have fought each other. At least Lara/Vanes are GOING to fight each other. I know Canelo was scheduled to fight Kirkland and shit happens, he got an A for effort and that's it. Canelo is being treated as if he's earned the throne, when in my eyes, he's still just a court jester when compared to Mayweather and Cotto. I think it's too premature to call him a duck, but consistently fighting guys outside of your division is ridiculous.

Question: IF Trout beats Cotto and Canelo fights another 140/147lber, what would you call that?

What he should do is fight Molina in January, then Cotto/Trout in May, and then fight Lara/Vanes in September. Even the harshest critics would respect that, because those are match-ups worth our attention.

[garfios]

Saul beats Cotto, K9, Lara, Rosado, Trout and whoever else.

The guy runs 154.

If Mayweather thinks he can take a year layoff and face Alvarez he's in trouble. He's not the guy you do that against.

And whoever says "but Saul wuz hert bai Cotto's brathur" is an idiot.

That was then and this is now.

The guy hasn't prove $h1t, he doesn't run 154 he is running from fighters that weight 154, if he beats those guys why he is facing 140 lbs and not even rank in their own division? The kid is a fraud until he fight a real contender from his own division, I mean someone that will hit him back.

[garfios]

not til he fights somebody worthy ...canelo and rigo are mirrors of eachother..both aint done sh11t

You hate for Rigondeaux is undeniable, and no they are not mirrors because Rigondeaux won the belt from a Champion, regardless, and he is trying to fight the best for real not trying to cash out, in his case he is been ducked while Ginger is ducking the whole 154 division, by the way why are you bringing Rigondeaux to Alvarez thread? Sorry I forgot, envy or hate.

[DanboSmitty]

The problem is he's being groomed to be the "Future of boxing" by being protected somewhat in his opposition. I have no doubt he will take riskier fights, but until then he's not totally proven yet in my eyes as a great fighter. He's a good one no doubt.

[New England]

I really want to like this guy, but it's just too hard when his division has so many fights to be made and instead he fights a brings a guy out of retirement and a 140 lb. I'll reserve any judgment on the kid 'till he fights a top 10 guy in his division.

well, for what it's worth, ryan rhodes was in the top 5. the problem with rhodes (and looking only at a fighter's ranking,) is that he sucks,

rhodes is not good.

i'm waiting for canelo to fight a 154 lber with punching power who is in his prime. that will show us what he's got. it's likely, however, that he'll fight great fighters in mayweather jr and cotto who are past their best, and naturally no larger than welterweights. floyd and cotto are the best two fighting at jr MW in the world right now, even if they're not actually jr MW.

[Kuyukut]

****** alert ****** alert.

butthurt alert, butthurt alert.

[Cleto_Reyes]

If anybody actually think cotto can beat Canelo they must be a hater. You're right he's gonna clean out the 154 division just be patient and watch these hater swallow their words.