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  • Cuauhtémoc1520
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    #31
    Originally posted by rey guey
    you know if Dulorme was with Golden Boy he probably would have fought Carlos Baldomir and Jose Cotto instead of Abregu.


    Golden Boy learned after Ortiz vs Maidana not to put their prospects in against hard punching Argentines
    Abregu style is tailor made for Delorme. I think they may have either overestimated Delorme or underestimated Abregu.

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    • benjamin2004
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      #32
      Originally posted by richardt
      Pedraza is a catcher. Easy to hit. Even the commentary mentioned that if the opponent had been able to punch, it could have been disasterous. They said he will pay when he steps up if he doesn't work on defence.
      Exactly, I do remember the commentators making that statement, you know what I'm talking about.

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      • benjamin2004
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        #33
        Originally posted by ELHURACAN58
        Historically speaking isnt a puerto rican trainer usually a family member or a close family relative of the fighter?

        It seemed to be the case with Tito, Cotto, Benitez.

        I agree with throwing these guys to the wolves early. A lot of the champs in Puerto Rico's history became champs at an early age.

        Benitez at 17
        Gomez at 20
        Tito at 20
        Camacho at 21
        Rosario at 20
        Escalera at 23
        Serrano at 23
        Laporte at 22
        Sanchez at 20
        De Leon at 21

        There probably a few more. Reality is puerto ricans have historically been thrown to the wolves early, the difference is that back then we came out on top, and today we are getting sent back to the drawing board. Is this because boxing today is harder than back then? Or are we just lacking the talent we had?

        One thing is for sure. This month a puerto rican got thrown to the wolves and came out on top, and that is Bomba Gonzalez who after fighting guys with losing records (he once took a fight two weeks after his last), he fought a mexican with a great chin and dominated him. Despite having great punching power he boxed his ass off to win. Thats what we need, guys that dont fall in love with their strenghts and focus on limiting their weaknesses.
        Bomba looks like is the real deal, but he is another one that believes his own hype too.

        Mantequilla is a lazy bastard, I didn't see his fight with Dunzy, but I thought he was gonna lose and was surpised with the draw. He's ok IMO, his chins is really good, but is lazy and unprofessional.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
          You make some good points man, sh.it I might move to PR and make a career down there.

          You think they will accept me? Hahaha
          You may do a better job than most trainers down there and you already know the island, I'm pretty sure your daughter would love to spend some time with her relatives in Mayaguez.

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          • ManOnTheMoon
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            #35
            Real smart guy, sounds like another Chad Dawson. "I'll fight better if I starve myself" mentality

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              #36
              140 seems suitable to drop to with better chances of winning some fights.At 22 he has allot left.He operates behind the jab well but just could not adjust to those rights hands and as technically sound of a good trainer Bonilla is I would of thought those problems would of been fixed.

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                #37
                Dulorme bad gameplan no defense fought to cautiously worrying about Abregu's right hand he should have fought more aggressively coming forward throwing power punches instead of staying on the outside throwing that weak jab that Abregu kept countering over the top with right hands moving down to 140 might help but its plenty of good fighters waiting for him

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                • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by benjamin2004
                  You may do a better job than most trainers down there and you already know the island, I'm pretty sure your daughter would love to spend some time with her relatives in Mayaguez.
                  I really like PR too, people are great, women are some of the sexiest in the whole world and I'm sure there's ton of talent down there. If I go down there, in 3 years you will see tough, granit chined, come forward Puerto Rican fighters coming out of there...hahahaha

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                    Abregu style is tailor made for Delorme. I think they may have either overestimated Delorme or underestimated Abregu.

                    at some point you've got to let the kid take one on the chin and see what he's got. he certainly didn't appear to be overmatched going in to the fight.

                    i think we found out what he's got, and we know that it's not going to be enough.

                    not only did he not take the punches well, he didn't behave like a fighter.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by New England
                      at some point you've got to let the kid take one on the chin and see what he's got. he certainly didn't appear to be overmatched going in to the fight.

                      i think we found out what he's got, and we know that it's not going to be enough.

                      not only did he not take the punches well, he didn't behave like a fighter.
                      Well don't write the kid off just yet, I think that's premature but I do agree with the way he acted.

                      He was beating Abregu in the early rounds, out boxing him and showing himself to be in another class. It ****** to see him get clipped like that, I was rooting for the kid.

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